Episode 122 - Truth Bomb: I Tried To Surprise My Wife...And She Called Me An Ahole!
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Hey, babes.
Speaker B: Hi, darling.
Speaker A: How are you?
Speaker B: I'm fabulous.
Speaker A: I think I need to start scripting that out because I feel like it's. It's getting a bit much already. How are you?
Speaker B: I'm. I'm fabulous.
Speaker A: She's looking huge today.
Speaker B: It's a little. It was a little overwhelming.
Speaker A: Look. Nice.
Speaker B: It's. I'll wake up one day and I'll just be a ***, a giant ***. It'll just take me over.
Speaker A: It's not the worst place to be, though.
Speaker B: Well, you know, if you're a small woman and this is a myth, people don't understand this. My ***** just keep getting bigger. And it's not related to weight. Like, it's hormonal.
Like, as I've got older, every child, every hormonal change, I'm like, salma Hayek. Have you heard about Salma Hayek? I love her. I keep getting bigger. And she talked about it once and she's like, everyone thinks she's had plastic surgery.
I was like, no. I'm like, yes. No, it's. They just.
Speaker A: It's true.
Speaker B: They're just the person. They're two people of their own volition and they're just getting bigger.
Speaker A: Well, good for them.
Speaker B: I know.
Speaker A: Like, they're growing up. They're like going to university.
They're having their own jobs, their own life. They're starting their own podcast. I know. We'll hear from them another time.
Speaker B: You probably will. Anyway, enough about my bosom.
Speaker A: Oy. Bae. So we have a fun little pod today.
We are doing more of a Truth Bomb series. So if you haven't heard our last Truth Bomb podcast, go back and Listen to that one.
Or listen to this one first. But Mel is going to read a story from an article that we found, and this is a truth bomb that he told his wife.
Similar to the last one we spoke about too.
Speaker B: Yeah, but this guy's a bit nicer.
Speaker A: He is.
Speaker B: He's actually very nice. It's just delivery, wasn't it? Okay, yeah, go ahead. So we're gonna comment on his delivery?
Speaker A: Yeah, we are.
Speaker B: So my wife, Alyssa and I had twins two years ago. The pregnancy left her with stretch marks and loose skin on her stomach, which she's been extremely self conscious about. I've been very careful not to take any negative comment to make any negative comments about it.
In fact, I make it a point to tell her that she is as beautiful to me as she ever was. That's very sweet. That's very nice. That's very sweet. It makes no difference.
She doesn't want me to see her naked. And all of our lovemaking has been in nearly complete darkness since we finally resumed it. It took nearly a year after the twins were born before she felt confident enough to go back to it.
Determined to lift her spirits, I took on overtime at work and have managed to save up enough money for her to be able to go in for a tummy tuck.
When our anniversary came recently, I surprised her with the money and told her what it was for. Her reaction has left me hurt and confused. Instead of being thrilled, which I truly thought she would be, she burst into tears.
She barely spoke to me for two days. Given how much she's been complaining about her appearance, I thought she would be jumping for joy. Where did I go wrong? Oy.
Speaker A: Where did he go wrong?
Speaker B: Yes.
Speaker A: It's a tough thing because obviously,
you know, you did save up this money for her. You're trying to solve her problem. And I think that is what a lot of men do to women. They want to solve our problems.
We're like women. We need to talk about stuff. We don't actually want advice a lot of the time. We just need to talk it out. We need to feel things.
Men want to solve things. They want to give us advice, they want to solve our problems. When we don't want that. We just need to feel embraced for who we are a lot of the time and like giving us validation of whatever that means.
We don't want the money for a tummy tuck if we are having problems with our tummy. I don't know, Mel. I haven't had kids.
If someone was like, hey. If my husband was like, Hey, I know that you don't like your *******. Let's get you a **** job. I'd be like, you know what?
That sounds really good, and I appreciate you for listening, but maybe it's not the same thing.
Speaker B: So I think this is actually a very, very interesting story in the sense that I think it really demonstrates the way men and women think.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: And I think,
quite honestly, he's obviously a very sweet man. This is a very nice thing to do. He's really concerned, number one.
He's done what he thinks is find a solution, a solution to the thing that's making her unhappy.
And he's also been telling her how beautiful she is. And that he thinks by him saying, but you're beautiful. I still love you. You're just as beautiful. And not actually commenting about it, he thinks that that goes somewhere in her brain and she goes, oh, no, he doesn't think I'm fat.
But then by, unfortunately, although the solution is a tummy tuck, I mean, in a logical person's mind, that is the solution.
Speaker A: You've loose skin. You just had babies. It's twins, too.
Speaker B: Like, it is a solution. But to her, by offering that, it's confirming what she has been fearing, that he thinks I'm ugly and fat. Although he actually doesn't. And I know it's completely illogical and it's a very female situation because we should say, this is actually from Slate magazine.
And I discussed this with my husband and we had exactly the male female reaction to it. He was like, poor guy. He's done everything. He's gone, done overtime. He's really thought about it.
He's done a really nice thing. He's been, you know, validating how beautiful she is to him. And he's done this because she's been complaining about her appearance. And he wants to do something positive and he's got the money and he's done all, you know, so how can she do that to him?
And I'm like, well, that's the thing about women is even though she knows she has loose skin, even though she doesn't look the same, yada, yada, yada, she doesn't want him to in some way confirm that that is actually the truth.
Even though it's the truth.
Speaker A: Exactly.
Speaker B: And by him doing this confirms the truth.
Speaker A: Exact.
Speaker B: And I know that's very messed up. And that's a very female thing. And I think. So there are two parts of this issue. When you have children, particularly if you are having twins, you probably will have Extra skin.
I mean, I've had two Caesareans, and you just have this layer where they sort of sew you up twice of skin you just can't kind of get rid of. No matter how much, you know, whether you're the thinner version of yourself or not, you just sort of have a bit of extra skin.
Yeah, you're a mom. It's okay. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A: You've given birth. You've literally made life.
Speaker B: I very much come to terms with it, and it is difficult, but maybe she has excessive amounts or a bit more or. Quite frankly, it's probably all in her mind, which is often with women that we see something that's absolutely hideous.
It's actually not at all.
And you see something more than is there. The thing, the problem is, is that I think the way he approached it, although really from a great place and really with good intentions,
I guess before he offered the money for the tummy tuck, he should have added a layer to that. He should have said something like,
look, I know you're. Are you still not happy with your parent? You know, he sort of caveat it and said, I know this is kind of crazy, and it's like talking to a child, but I think sometimes that's the way you have to do it, is he should have said to her,
you know, I love you and you look beautiful, and I'll always love you, and you've given me the two beautiful children, that sort of conversation. And then sort of said,
are you still unhappy? You seem to be unhappy when you're talking to me. Right. You always have to say, it's not me saying it, it's you saying it to me.
And then if she said, yeah, I'm miserable. And he said, look, if you want to do something about it. And I'm saying, if you want to do something about it, I have the money, we can do it.
That is probably the way he should have approached it. And I know that's crazy, but the way he probably approached it is, I love you. I've done this great thing.
And then she just went, oh, my God, Then you do think I'm back. Yeah, you can see how it influences.
Speaker A: Well, especially because it was for their anniversary. Right. That's what it was. It was like a present. Yes, but it's like getting your wife a vacuum for their. You know what I mean?
Speaker B: A little.
Speaker A: Obviously it's not the same thing, but.
Speaker B: It'S like, it's very expensive vacuum.
Speaker A: But.
Speaker B: Yeah, but I know.
Speaker A: You know what I mean? It's like, okay, Here you go. Here. Because, you know, you clean. Because, you know. Oh, you were complaining about the vacuum I hear is a vacuum for.
It's like, well, you could have used that money. Let's say if she maybe doesn't even want the tummy tuck, she just needs to be validated more and more and more.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker A: Get her a nice trip. I don't know how much a tummy tuck is. 10 grand, maybe.
Speaker B: Yeah, around there, maybe.
Speaker A: Let's just say 10 grand. You could have bought such a nice vacation for the two of you. Maybe even bring the twins or get the grandparents or something to, like, have the twins for like a few days or like a week even, hopefully.
And you can just go out together and, like, make sure that you. She knows that you love her and all these things where it's just like 100%.
Speaker B: Or he could have given her the option. He could have said,
you know, I've been doing the overtime. Cause, you know, you're married, you kind of gotta be a bit real, you know. And so I've got the money and I wanna buy you something that you want.
What would you like?
Would you like,
you know, and maybe laid out some options. And maybe you do have to, in some way, if you think in your mind it would help her to have this tummy tuck,
you should say to her, you can spend the money on whatever you want. I know you're unhappy with.
Is that what you want to use the money for? We don't have to use the words tummy tuck. Yeah. You could just say, I know you've been very unhappy with.
However she puts it,
and then say, do you want the money for that? Would you like to buy some jewelry? Would you like to go on a trip? Whatever you want. I love you, sweetheart.
You're very beautiful. Blah, blah, blah.
Speaker A: Thank you for giving your children.
Speaker B: Exactly. And that's probably the way he should have approached it from I. And. But I think he approached it from, as you said, from a very male point of view. There's a problem, there's a solution, and we're going to offer said solution.
Yeah. I mean, to be fair, it's totally logical and fair.
Speaker A: It's super logical and fair. And like, I, like, I said, like, I'm like, if a guy were to be like, you know, offer you a pair of **** because you. I know you wanted them.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker A: I would take that as a thank you for listening. I will take that money for this.
Speaker B: Yeah. And I think that's the point is thank you for listening. That's A really good way of putting it. He's actually been listening to her. He's literally been listening her pain.
And I think the thing that I say from the female point of view that is wrong that she's doing is, come on, you're married to this guy. You know what he's like.
You know, he's a thoughtful person, blah, blah, blah. You obviously must know he's not being mean. Like, come on.
Speaker A: I know, but I.
Speaker B: And you could have said so. You could have reacted differently.
Speaker A: I think it's. I mean, I've never been a mother, obviously, but, like, there is. And I don't know how long the twins have been born. I don't know what he said, but.
Right. So, like, she's possibly probably going through this postpartum thing. Right. Where she's also not. Not even only just unhappy with her appearance and her looks. She's like, mourning her old self.
Speaker B: Yes.
Speaker A: Her old body, her 100%, you know, and that's a very emotional place to be in, so.
Speaker B: It's awful.
Speaker A: Exactly. I can't even imagine.
Speaker B: It's a very difficult place to be because on the one hand, you're really happy if you have this child, his children, but you. You kind of do bear the scars. And you will forever bear those scars.
You know, some people bounce back more than others, but you're always some. You're different in some way. Yeah. You know, I know a lot of my friends who are very, very skinny and have always been very skinny, but they've got lots of stretch marks for some reason.
I never got any stretch marks, even though I was ginormous.
Yeah. I mean, lots of. Lots of stuff. Yeah. I put so much stuff on it. But, you know, everyone has some kind of.
I hate to say scar. Cause children are not that to me. But you have some evidence that it happened.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: You know, and it's a really difficult thing to come to terms with that you will never be the same again. And there's also the issue if you gave birth to these children naturally.
That's another whole thing.
Speaker A: Well, there are. It's just twins again. It's twins.
Speaker B: It's twins.
Speaker A: And it's so much to deal with.
Speaker B: And then all of a sudden, you. You are. You know, I know men think that women are illogical and there are. At times, we are. I wouldn't say on the whole, because that's a really.
A huge generalization, but hormones can do really funny things to you, as we all know. And if she is feeling depressed, postpartum, any of These things, it will make her feel, it's irrational.
And if I really feel for the guy actually, because it's a really difficult time and I'm not entirely sure he's gonna be able to navigate this on his own. I think that, you know, he said.
Speaker A: That she didn't talk to him for two whole days. Like, how do you make it better?
Speaker B: It's so extreme. I really, the problem that could happen here is her emotions and hormones and everything could take over so much that she drives him down a hol that he's just like, well, ****, **** it and sort of **** you.
And I don't wanna. I've tried.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: And that is a kind of logical response. But he, somebody has to be the grown up here, I'm afraid.
And he has to realize she is not totally dealing with a full deck at the moment, if that makes sense.
Speaker A: Yeah, she's not her total self. She's.
Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And he's done, you know, he's obviously, like I said, it's a really sweet thing to do. I. He has been listening. He's very, very worried. You can see him googling, can't you?
What to do kind of thing.
Speaker A: Well, so let me ask you because obviously you've been through, not this, but you know, like,
like at your largest, after you had your children and they were girls too, and girls make you even fatter than boys do, for whatever reason, they suck the soul out of you.
And they did, they do. And so at your largest, if your husband was like,
had come up to you, let's say it was a year later, I don't know how long it's been, and you, you still feel like ****. And he was like, we're gonna solve this problem.
I love you so much. Here's a tummy tuck coupon.
Speaker B: I'm not sure I would have been all that impressed. I mean, the thing is, I didn't have, I was just fat. I just needed to go on a diet. I didn't have extra layers.
The tummy tuck wouldn't have really helped. Right.
And I did and I got a gift.
Speaker A: If he was like, lipo, Here's a lipo gift card.
Speaker B: Yeah. It's so difficult for me to answer because he's just not like that. He just wouldn't say that. And he would be so careful. Like he knows, you know when you do that thing where you go, so how do I look in this?
And he kind of goes, ah, yeah, great. Like he never says the thing right, you know, like, oh, I think this Makes me look fat. And he's like, no, this is a trick question, right?
Speaker A: Say that.
Speaker B: He's like, no, it looks great.
Speaker A: He's not an idiot.
Speaker B: Yeah, he's not an idiot. He never falls down the hole because he's just like, it looks, it looks great. Or I say to him, what do you think about my skin?
I'm using this new cream or something like that, or new foundation on you. And he's like, yeah, it's very glowy. He has no idea. It looks exactly the same as far as he's concerned.
But he's like, yeah, it's really glowy. Because he knows if he says, I can't tell, then I'll be like, oh, my God, are you kidding me? And if I say the opposite, like, he can't win.
Speaker A: Yeah. So you just agree.
Speaker B: So it's been around a long time and he gets it and so I don't think he would do it, but I, I, It's a good question. I think I might have been a bit like, oh, like, you know, you've been telling me.
So basically you're feeling as a woman's you. Oh, so you've been telling me I'm really beautiful and that I look great and you're, you know, I'm this beautiful woman who's giving you these babies, but you're offering me this.
This. Which means you obviously didn't really mean that. You were saying that just to make me feel better. Right. That's the way a woman's mind works.
Speaker A: Well, because it's, it's kind of a ****** up thing. Because if I,
because if I were to be like, oh, my God, like, you know, I hate all my clothes. I wish I knew clothes or like something stupid like that. And then the guy was like, well, why don't I take you shopping?
Speaker B: Yeah, you're completely different. Be like, great. Exactly.
Speaker A: Let's go. Oh, thanks, babe. That's so sweet of you to even notice or ask or tell me that.
Speaker B: Yes.
Speaker A: Instead of him being like, oh, no, babe, all your clothes are so nice. I'd be like, no, they're not. Take me shopping.
Speaker B: Or if he said, which once this happened to me as somebody, I know where this. She was putting on this jacket and her husband's there and I have to say, he's a bit of a ****.
Speaker A: Is she a friend?
Speaker B: She's sort of somebody I know. She's not really a friend.
Speaker A: Acquaintance.
Speaker B: Acquaintance.
You know, when you have, especially when you have kids, you sort of have acquaintance, you know, other mums or whatever. So I was somewhere, and she's putting on this jacket.
I don't know if she's going somewhere skiing somewhere. I don't know what she was doing. And she's putting on this jacket. And the husband goes. She's like, oh, this looks okay.
And I'm like, yeah, that looks fine. And he goes, no, it's too small.
Whoa. It's too tight. Like, in front of me. Like, literally cut her at the knees.
Yeah. Anyway, that's going completely off topic. And this man is a nice man in this article, and he's trying his best, but he.
Speaker A: The wrong way.
Speaker B: Yeah. He doesn't understand the subtleties of communicating with this a very sensitive, sensitive woman. But I would say, in his defense, that I don't. She isn't being very fair. And she.
By being this kind of intransigent or like, you know, not talking to him, which is the worst thing, you know, she could destroy her own relationship by something that he did from a really nice place.
And I think sometimes you really do have to think that. You have to kind of step back and say, what were the intentions of what this person did? You know, even if.
Or even if it's a bad thing, somebody does a bad thing or says a bad thing to you, you sometimes you have to step back and go, okay, that was bad, and that was ****** thing they said.
But I know they didn't really mean it. They're just upset or, you know, all these other feelings have come into the mix. Sometimes you really have to try and step back.
But that obviously does come with age and comes with a lot of kind of experience in going through a lot of things. And I feel for this guy, and I would say he has to be really careful, and she has to be really careful.
She could drive him away.
She could push him away. And, you know, this is a nice man. You don't want to push him away.
Speaker A: Well, especially because. Yeah, he's. Yeah, it's just. It's just very. It's very sucky, I think, for him. I.
Speaker B: And he's done overtime. He's worked. I mean, that's the sweet thing. Like, he's worked overtime. He's literally put blood, sweat, and tears into sorting this out. And it's.
Speaker A: It's a. It's a problem that she didn't really.
Speaker B: Ask to be solved, kind of. Yeah. I mean, I think that's the thing is that women voice things like you said. Like, you'll say, oh, I hate my hair, or I hate my ***, or I Hate my **** or whatever the you hate.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: Which you know, for me, on a daily basis is something you're not asking for your husband to go, oh, yeah, they need fixing.
Speaker A: Exactly.
Speaker B: They're supposed to.
Speaker A: Unless we are literally, literally asking for, oh, I, you know, I think I really want a tummy tuck. I'm going to work hard to get one.
Speaker B: Exactly.
Speaker A: So, yeah, unless she says it, you cannot do it for her.
Speaker B: Exactly.
Speaker A: This situation.
Speaker B: I think that's a very good way of putting it that a man sees. Problem, solution, how to solve problem. It's very logical. The woman, if she really wanted the tummy tuck, she would have said to you, can we find a way?
I'm so miserable. I think this is the only solution. Is there a way we can get the money together?
Speaker A: Exactly.
Speaker B: She would have said it to you. Probably. Yeah. But on the other hand,
this is a relationship. We all make mistakes. We all say the wrong thing at the wrong time. We all do things that we think are really nice and have great intent.
Sometimes that you give, like gifts, let's say jewelry or whatever. Or even the guy who gives his wife a vacuum cleaner, you know, it might come from a very good place or, you know, a set of new pots for the stove.
It comes from a good place. I mean, nobody would ever give that to me. But anyway, that's, by the way, is cause I wouldn't know what to do with them.
But Ms. Chef, oh, my gosh. To save my life. But what am I saying? I've completely lost my train of thought. No, but I mean, even then, you've got to think of what's the intent.
They're not doing it to be mean.
Speaker A: No.
Speaker B: And so you have to sort of maybe gently say in those circumstances, you know, this is my birthday, Christmas, holiday, whatever it is, can I have something exciting? I don't want a vacuum cleaner.
That should be part of regular life purchasing.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: But in this case, I really hope she does see sense and is able to talk to him because she's obviously so upset with her appearance, she can't even talk.
Speaker A: Well, what's sad about it is that he was like, she. What was he saying? He has to. They haven't had sex or she has to like shut the lights for sex.
Speaker B: So this is very common. I mean, I know a lot of friends who waited. I mean, obviously sometimes because there's actual injuries to your vajayjay. For your vajay. Yeah.
And then you just feel. You just. You are not feeling it. And you know, your ***** are Leaking and all sorts of stuff. And. Or sometimes when you're breastfeeding, like you can get.
I don't know why I'm doing this, but if you can imagine, mine were even bigger because they get engorged and it's literally like a rock and it is so painful.
So you're not really feeling at your sexiest when you've got these balloons and then the baby's crying and then you haven't slept and.
Speaker A: And you want showered. Although you would have.
Speaker B: I would have. I always, always had makeup on. Always had a shower.
Speaker A: Unbelievable.
Speaker B: Before anybody comes to me and says I had a mother in law, a nanny or whatever at that time I didn't. I just, I would get up early. I'm just weird like that I'd actually sacrifice sleep to have a shower and put makeup on.
But you know, you can say I'm nuts, but it made me feel better. Yeah, it made me feel kind of like myself and myself is somebody who does my makeup and showers and tries to look the best I possibly can in that moment.
So it made me feel better. If I hadn't done that, I would have felt a thousand times worse. But you feel very bad about yourself a lot of women.
Because nothing can prepare you for that.
Speaker A: Yeah. And you know, and nothing a man says will help or not. Like it's just bad all around because.
Speaker B: You'Re like, I know you're just saying that. Although that's not fair to him because what's he supposed to do?
Speaker A: So she has to be supportive.
Speaker B: It's a very difficult. Yeah, but it's a very difficult. He's damned if he doesn't. Damned if he does, of course.
Speaker A: But that's what you guys fudgeing do. We bear your children and you just have to deal with our ******* hormones and emotions. Like, I'm sorry it is awful, but that's just the way it is.
Speaker B: Nine months of being a hormonal wreck and yeah, getting, you know, bigger and bigger or whatever way you're getting bigger and then it's. And then you have the baby. And I think the men and women think you're just going to sting back into shape.
You're gonna be the person from before, but you are forever changed in whatever way, mentally, physically, everything's changed. And then there's another person in this equation. In their case, there's another two people.
Speaker A: Oh my gosh.
Speaker B: And so nothing is the same. But I guess I would say to this man, if he cannot get through to his wife so this does not blow up in the sense that this has become such a truth bomb that their relationship blows up.
If he can go to maybe one of her friends or talk to somebody who could help, kind of somehow be a bit of an intermediary. Because I think that you are in a situation where she's so emotionally wound up, she's so unhappy, that she could just spiral down and down and down,
and it actually could. And he could get more and more angry about the fact that he's tried to help. And you've essentially thrown it back in my face that the whole thing could just unravel.
And that is a tragedy. And I think things like that happen, do happen. So if there is anybody who can help,
you know, that. You know, who can get in the middle, like a relative or a. Like a night. A sympathetic relative or a sister or a friend, or to say what?
To just help, kind of talk to her. Right. Because he can't get through to her if she's not talking to him. There's no communication. Yeah. So that she can understand that he loves her very much and he was trying to help.
He may or may not understand that perhaps the delivery wasn't the best.
Speaker A: Well, but then here's the thing. Like, what if she kind of gets over the shock about it? And then she's like, actually, I do want this. And that might happen because the hormones are going insane.
She's really upset because she's like, oh, you do think I'm huge. You do think I'm fat. You do think I'm ugly. But then she kind of thinks. Thinks about it, goes into her little hovel of like, I'm not to talk to you because I'm mad at you.
But then she's like. And then they talk again. And then she's like, you know what? That would actually be really nice.
Speaker B: Yeah. And then she takes it. How long will that take?
Speaker A: And then she gets hot again, and then she leaves you.
Speaker B: No,
Only you would say that it's possible.
But I feel for them both. And that's what. Like, we. We put this in the category of truth bomb because although this man is not intending. No to truth bomb.
Like the previous truth bomb was about the guy who hated wrinkles. Yeah. This man isn't actually. He's actually trying to really be nice and doing it because she feels. Yeah.
Speaker A: He doesn't even seem like he cares about harsher skin.
Speaker B: No, I'm sure he. And again, I'm sure it's in her mind. Yes. It's just because it's different and the different is sometimes very hard to accept. Yeah,
but he hasn't even meant to truth bomb her, but he's inadvertently truth bombed her.
Speaker A: It's a bad truth bomb, but we want to go. Guys, if you have a truth bomb that you have to or you have bombed someone, truth bombed onto someone else, or if you guys have had a problem with your partner and they just had children or maybe you had a problem with the husband,
your husband, your baby daddy. Baby daddy told you you were getting too big and you left his ***. Yeah, we want to know about it.
Speaker B: Yeah, we do want to know these stories because I, I don't. Just wild to me that people get themselves into these situations that they can.
Speaker A: Be so oblivious to other their partner's feelings a little bit that they just. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B: Like, you know, obviously somebody's going to read into this, but I don't know.
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