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Mel: Right?

Suzie : Hey, babes.

Mel: Hello, darling.

Suzie : How are you?

Mel: I'm fabulous.

Suzie : It's a lot. It's a mouthful. Not going to lie.

Mel: It's a lot.

Suzie : It's lie.

Mel: Done an excellent job. You nailed it.

Suzie : Thank you very much.

Mel: Well done.

Suzie : It's not easy being us, obviously. Oh, my God, it's exhausting. How are you though?

Mel: Just generally fabulous.

Suzie : I know.

Mel: I mean, you're not gonna say that. No, you are.

Suzie : Your kids are going back to school.

Mel: Yes. Yes. Empty nesta.

Suzie : Oh my God.

You're like, I don't want to be so excited, but it's a lot. Yeah, of course it is.

You're a successful mother. Oh, this is like, it's a big,

it's a big, it's a big accomplishment.

Your birdies are flown away.

Mel: But I feel like in North America, kids going to university is like a bigger thing in the sense. Not a bigger thing that they're going away, but just like the amount of stuff that kids want.

Like,

I mean, you see all these,

I was watching the news recently and all these stories of like now dorm designers are a thing. Like, they got like a lot of American kids.

Suzie : You're kidding.

Mel: Their dorm rooms are unbelievable. And I wouldn't have thought so. Somebody can tell me I'm wrong. But like, I know,

you know, a couple of American friends and they, they move their kids in and their dorm rooms just look like the inside of a design, sort of designer showroom. I mean, it's not like that here in Canada, but It's just the level of stuff, you know, a fridge and a,

and a shower caddy and shower shoes and blah, blah, blah. And what my daughter, one daughter said to me, I don't know what I'm going on, but I'm going to shut up in a minute.

No, no, no, I love it. She wants a. I can't imagine an English person would even think to know what this is. A mattress, a drying mat to put the shower caddy on the dry.

Suzie : You have to think of every little.

Mel: Thing and you're like, you're not even gonna put the ******* shampoo bottles back in the shower caddy.

I mean, this is wishful thinking. Right, right, right. But it's just like the levels of it are insane.

Suzie : And TikTok's making it worse, obviously, because they like show you everything, these little consumer things you need.

Mel: Oh, and then Amazon has, you know,

stick on hooks and tiles. Oh my God, it goes on and on and I wouldn't have believed it until, you know, my older daughter's already at uni and when I moved in and the stuff that just kept coming, kept coming out of our car, but coming out of the car is like insane.

And I just,

it's just not. I can't believe it's the same in Europe. Most people, kids live at home anyway, but in England,

people go away. But it's like,

still, I just don't think it's the same.

Anyway, that's my rant.

Suzie : No, I mean that's disaster.

Mel: I'm endless, endless, endless.

Suzie : I'm proud of your girl. Girls. I love them so much. It's very exciting. I can't wait to go visit them and get them so drunk.

Mel: What a great influence. I love that.

Suzie : You know, show them how, show them how to party. Yeah, I think that's a part of that already. That's a part of adulthood.

Mel: It is, it's, it's something that needs to be learned.

Suzie : Absolutely, it is. Don't worry, I'll take care of them though.

Mel: So happy.

Suzie : So guys, we have a write in from one of our listeners that we are very excited to share with you. It's a pretty juicy story and we was really, really excited when this guy wrote in.

It's.

Yeah, we, we thank you guys so much. We actually, we read all of, obviously we read all of our emails, we read all of our dms,

we really try to reply to all of them and some of them will obviously be on the pod. If you are okay with being on the pod. You want your story on the pod.

We will try to do one for almost every episode now because we're actually getting quite a few more.

So I will go through this one.

Mel: Mel, don't them.

Suzie : All right, here it goes.

So he says,

here's my confession.

I've been hooking up with my brother's neighbor for a year and a half now. She's in her 50s,

married, couple of daughters who were off at college.

Her husband's gone all the time for work, weeks at a time,

so the house is basically hers.

It started at this neighborhood barbecue.

We got drunk, we're laughing, and the flirting just crossed that line. I walked her home, she kissed me first and we ended up in her bed the same night.

I thought it would be a one time thing, but it turned out this whole. It turned into this whole secret affair.

Now whenever her husband's away, I'm over there. Sometimes it's quick, like she'll pull me into the laundry room the second I walk in. Other times it's whole afternoons, wine, music,

blinds, shut her in, nothing but a robe. The sex is insane. She's confident, knows exactly what she wants. And the danger of it all just makes it so much hotter.

I know it's wrong, but I'm hooked.

She was always the hot mom I had a crush on. And now she's the secret I can't give up.

So tell me, do I really need to end this or is it okay to just keep living in the fantasy? Because if I'm being honest, I don't think I want it to stop.

My God.

Mel: Is he married? Is he?

Suzie : He didn't say he was married, so he's only 27, I think.

Mel: 27?

Suzie : So he's a younger guy. Yeah, he's just kind of like living it up.

Mel: Well, look, I don't blame him, to be honest with you. No. Offering it on a plate.

Suzie : Absolutely.

Mel: I mean, look,

it's obviously as we've said, I've said many times and we've had confirmed by a psychologist, which we. No, not psychologist. Was he a therapist? Sean is a.

Suzie : Yes, he's a psychotherapist.

Mel: Psychotherapist, sorry. Get the terms right. Is, you know, cheating is not good. But it happens all the time. And he technically isn't cheating. She's cheating.

Suzie : It is her responsibility to 100 end the affair. But obviously she's married.

Mel: He's not.

Suzie : If, yeah, if he wanted, if he didn't, if he felt like it was a moral thing for him, then he would obviously have to end it.

Mel: Yeah, I mean, look, it's it's not going to probably end well, let's be fair. Unless, you know, I mean, God, let's hope the husband doesn't suddenly come home.

Suzie : Well, this is the thing, right? He obviously travels.

Mel: I mean,

I know, but you know, people schedule changes and, you know, like something could happen and they're all of a sudden home and, you know, you've got to be really careful.

I mean, unless he goes, maybe the husband goes like to Europe or he goes somewhere far so he's not gonna just turn up.

But I mean,

clearly it's not a great long term, let's call it healthy situation.

But she is the one cheating, not him.

And she's obviously not very happy,

right?

Suzie : I mean, I wanna have this woman on the pod and her story.

Mel: She's obviously not happy.

Suzie : It's obviously very lonely.

Mel: Yeah, it's not unusual. I think there is this. We've had quite a few conversations with people in DMs. There's this real misconception, I think,

that men think that it's only them in marriages who are unhappy about the lack of sex.

When you get to sort of 40, 50,

and there, I can tell you, many women that I know or that you know, have conversed or told us their stories.

It is very common for women to be in their 40s and 50s and be very dissatisfied sexually in their marriage. It's not just this idea that women aren't having sex, it's men who aren't having sex too, for a myriad of reasons.

Happy, they're not connected. I mean, there's lots of reasons, and that's for another pod.

But I think speaking from somebody who is in their 50s,

you do when you hit 50, 40s are different.

Like 40s are like,

you're not 30 anymore. You don't really gave a **** what people think. You're more established in life, but you're still,

I guess, you know, you're still kind of more concerned about what people think. I think you get to 50 and you want what you want and you're like, **** it, I'm not gonna be miserable any anymore.

I think Also in the 40s, a lot of people have younger children. So they're kind of in this fog of survival, right? And you hit 50 and whether it's like me, kids are leaving,

so it changes the dynamics. And when kids leave to go to college and you're unhappy in your relationship, it absolutely highlights the silence, the crickets between you, you know, because kids can create distractions, you know, because you're busy with what you're doing with them.

And when they go, you've actually got to talk to your husband or your wife and you've actually gotta face the fact that the relationship is not what it should be and you're not having sex and all the rest of it.

Yeah. And I think there is this misconception that it's men who hit 50 and go, well, my wife hasn't had sex with me for 10, 20 years, whatever it is, or you know, sort of lies down every Saturday and goes, get on with it.

And you know, that's. That it's not. It's men too.

Suzie : Oh, God.

Mel: It's women who are very unsatisfied too. And I think, particularly our generation,

Gen X's is. We're not our mothers. So we did have maybe more relationships going into marriage.

We are aware of what it could be if it isn't, it's like a different mindset and we're like, **** it. I'm, you know, literally **** it. But like, **** it.

I might as well live now. What am I waiting for? Yeah, and I'm not. And I think when you're in your 50s, you're not young and you're not old. And I know young people look at people in the 50s and go, you're so old.

But when you hit 50 or in your 50s, you'll realize you've got another 30.

Yeah, 30 years. Maybe 40, maybe. My family all lives to very ripe old age, so I've got another 40, 40 years to go.

Suzie : I can't wait to take care of you when you're a race.

Mel: Oh, thank you.

I'm gonna be a very sprightly 90 year old.

But, you know,

it's just that realization that you're like, no, I'm not gonna put up with it anymore. I'm gonna live, I'm gonna have fun. I'm gonna, I'm probably being risking stuff from.

I'm talking about the woman's point of view. And she meets this young man and that's. This is another. Do you want to hear my other sex thing? And so.

And then she meets this young man and it's also this idea that women in their 50s are like shrivel up prunes and don't want sex. It's not true.

Because it can be. But, but that can be the second.

Suzie : Awakening of sexuality for women.

Mel: Absolutely. And it's not just that. It's like,

you know yourself, you know your body,

you,

you know what you need, you want, you're less embarrassed, et cetera.

And Also just the hormones that, you know, if you're perimenopausal, menopausal, it's all kind of going crazy. And this idea that women don't want sex in their 50s is just like, are you in?

It's not. It's not true.

And then, of course, they're married to men in their 50s or older who are starting to have cause. I'm sorry, guys. It does happen. It's a natural thing having all sorts of ED problems.

Suzie : And of course it happens.

Mel: They're just not the same as they were. And I'm not saying we are. We're absolutely not. I'm absolutely not. But,

you know,

mostly women, the way they look, not necessarily their ability to orgasm.

Yeah, men, you know, young men can keep going. Let's be frank.

Suzie : Yeah, baby.

Mel: So that is why, like, an old woman in her 50s who. She doesn't need him for anything. She doesn't need him for money.

She doesn't need him for anything. She just pretty much needs his appendage to stay upright. Right. I mean,

totally honest.

Suzie : I absolutely love that analysis.

Mel: And if she is. If she's attracted to him and he's fun and there are no,

like, there's no worries. It's just fun. And they have great conversation and they have great sex and obviously all the things that are missing in her life because she doesn't need the other stuff.

She's had her children,

you know, and she's. If she's working or not working or whatever, the finances are sorted out.

What does she need him for? She needs him for this.

And if her husband isn't doing that, which could be for a myriad of reasons.

Suzie : Well, that's. He could be having an affair. Exactly.

Mel: They could both be unhappy. It could be lots and lots of things. I'm not saying anybody's fault, but these things happen for a reason. And you know that I'm the last person to condone cheating because it's ultimately.

I understand why it happens,

but it ultimately ends in disaster because somebody's gonna find something's gonna happen.

And that's the problem, is when people find out,

then the pain starts.

And then not just the pain of the husband finding out is the pain of what you gotta live with. Yeah. Like, it's fun in the moment. And then you gotta live with this.

You've gotta live with the guilt. Whether you tell it or don't tell it. Kind of once the.

The rose colored, the tinted spectacles come off and. But I get it.

Suzie : I mean, I'm wondering How much talking these two are doing. Obviously it just sounds like they're having sex, but obviously it's exactly fun.

Mel: They're having fun. They're connecting. They must be having, you know, at a point. If they've, if they've met a few times you've had the passionate, then it's all about the conversation, the passionate, like this connection.

Suzie : There's.

Mel: So if they're talking about afternoons, they're just generally really enjoying each other's company.

And also this concept that, you know, 50 year old woman wouldn't enjoy a young man's company that he,

you know, they can have great conversation. I mean, and fun. And I, you know,

this again, I just go back to this idea that older women, because we've seen it so many times in our comments,

you know, it's always the women in relationships where they stop having sex.

It can be. And we can. That's a long conversation for another pod. And that can happen for a lot of different reasons. But it's not always the women.

Suzie : No, it is not always the women.

Mel: And it could be both. It can be both, but it can definitely be women. When they get to their 50s, they realize, holy ****, my whole life was very, you know, long marriage.

This has been very boring.

Then the last however long,

nothing's going on. Yeah. And I've only got so much time.

Suzie : Well, her husband is traveling a lot and maybe they also have a, an agreement of some sort. Right.

Mel: Like maybe knew you were going to.

Suzie : Say, well, it's so possible. It is possible. He is.

Mel: It is.

Suzie : That's what I'm saying. Like are they, are, is this young man and this older woman, have they had a conversation being like, yeah, it doesn't sound like they have about being like, oh, the husband is also seeing other people so it's fine if she sees other people while he's away,

like and that is a very fair thing to do. I think if you're in your marriage, you love each other still, you have amazing kids, but you're just roommates a.

Mel: Bit now look, that's their business.

That's a whole different thing though.

If the woman has an agreement with her husband that they both do this, whatever,

that is a whole different thing.

It's not a lifestyle I could live.

I just couldn't live that.

I couldn't do it.

My, my mind, but I just, I just couldn't do it. But if that is their choice, then that's up to them. That's nobody's business. But if she is lying and this, that Is not the agreement.

Right.

And, you know, sounds like they live in a house in a neighborhood. Neighbors are ******* nosy.

Somebody's gonna like, what? And this guy goes there an awful lot, and he comes out, and people aren't dumb. He comes out. He look, you know, somebody's watching. Somebody's watching all of that.

Suzie : Yeah.

Mel: And so there's that whole element. And especially if you live. You know, they're talking. What do they talk about? Community barbecue or whatever.

Suzie : You kind of like a block party.

Mel: Whatever it is in those kind of communities. Kind of in Canada or the U.S. people know each other.

Suzie : Of course they do.

Mel: And they're kind of nosy and they're looking at. And, you know,

you know,

tells the husband, see something. So that whole side of it. But that isn't this young guy's responsibility. No, it's not. He's not cheating.

She's cheating.

Um.

And of course it's exciting. Of course it is. Why would it not be?

Suzie : Well, no, I'm a. I. Here's the thing. Like, I have hooked up with men of all ages. Right.

Mel: Well done, Susie.

Suzie : Thank you so much. I'm taking one for the team. I'm doing my surveys correctly. You know, I have to do my experiments.

Mel: Absolutely. Experiments.

Suzie : And I mean, as much as I'd love to say that, like, you know, younger men are better, older men are better. Like,

the spectrum is incredible.

Right. Like, it really just depends on your.

Mel: Experience and the person whether they're selfish, not selfish. 100.

Suzie : And he sounds like he's a fun guy to have sex with. And as an older woman, obviously I'm not. I'm not in my 50s yet, but I could assume potentially that she also maybe likes to teach him what she likes, because he mentioned that she's confident.

She knows exactly what she wants, which men love.

Men love to have a confident woman in bed knowing what she wants.

He doesn't have to guess about, like, what to do next. Like, she feel she knows how to make herself calm. She's not, like, waiting for you to do it or, like, I'm happy.

She'll tell him. Exactly. So, like, I think that's something really exciting for a guy who's, like, around, like, in his 20s, in his mid-20s, early 30s. Like, that's an exciting thing to have where you're not guessing.

You're not, like, dealing with women who are self conscious. You're not dealing with women who don't know their bodies as well. This woman wants to have sex. She's confident, she's sexy.

And that's a huge turn on for.

Mel: Any guy of any age.

Suzie : Yes, absolutely.

Mel: Any age. And it.

Suzie : I love this woman.

Mel: Right. And it. Thank you. I'm sure you would. But it actually is a very interesting point because I think it's something. Women do not understand that about themselves.

They do not understand how appealing men find that. Yeah.

And it's kind of. It's kind of crazy. But they don't. Men. And for the most part, most men are not that bothered whether whatever the comments we see in our stuff like, oh, just be 110 pounds, whatever, is bullshit.

If the woman is confident and sexy and tells him what she wants and gives it her all, let's put it.

Suzie : That, yeah, she's excited about being with a man.

Mel: It's not about, oh, she's. Oh, she's got whatever **** size, whatever this. That's just not true.

Suzie : Yeah.

Mel: And,

you know, of course it's exciting for a guy, like, he's not young. Young. He's not like very young. 20. So he's nearing his 30s. So he's had experience.

But he won't have had the experience she's had. Because even if you're like, in your 50s and you haven't had many partners because you. As compared to somebody in their 20s nowadays, because you've been married a long time,

it's your.

Your maturity, your life, your experience brings a whole different thing into it. And also the way you see yourself, like, and many women, they get to their 50s and you're just like, **** it, I just don't care.

You know, it's like, you know, it's. Whatever. It is what it is. Yeah. And you're just not as stressed about.

Well, it sounds like people think so. That's very appealing.

Suzie : As she's. If she is experienced, maybe she's, you know,

using toys.

Men,

men of that. Of the age of like, of the mid-20s, I feel like, are not as experienced in the use of toys. I feel like once you get to, like, your late 30s,

your early 40s. The men I've dated from, like, their early 30s,

like, or like late 30s, early 40s, are super excited about using toys.

They are super excited about anything to do with making a woman come.

Mel: Mm.

Suzie : It's like the best thing in the world for them, which is amazing.

Um, but I think that men who are like, let's say the average male is losing their virginity at like,

18. 20.

Mel: 18, 20. I think so. I think now it's a lot younger than that.

Suzie : No, I don't think so. Right now for Gen Z's.

Mel: Okay, we have to Google that. I. To me, I would think it's probably a lot younger than that.

Suzie : Okay, wait, everyone pause ChatGPT.

Mel: Should we chat GPT or Kendall?

Suzie : No, I'm chatgpting. What's the average age of a male to lose his virginity?

Mel: Probably offend the community guidelines.

Suzie : No, it says in the United States 17.

Mel: Right.

Suzie : Canada, UK, 16 to 18.

Mel: Yeah. Okay, so I still think that globally.

Suzie : Mostly 16 to 19. I wasn't that much off a little bit.

Mel: I think you were a little bit on the, on the.

Suzie : I think Gen Z is having, Gen Z is having a problem, Mel, right now with having sex because they are not able to meet anyone.

Mel: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's. Yes, I think there's an element of that that's portrayed online. But I do think people are, I'd say 17 is an average, which means there's a lot of people who are below 17.

For sure.

Suzie : Yeah. For. Of course.

Mel: Anyway. Anyway, let's go into.

Suzie : Yes, yes, but.

Mel: So I, I think, I think, I think there is a thing.

This is what you're saying and I, you know, we can talk about this in the sense that you're 30 and I'm 52.

So the,

when you,

the older you get,

it's not like. That's what I'm trying to say. It's not necessarily about how many partners you've had because obviously, you know, I've been married a long time, so obviously I,

I haven't had partners in that period of time. I can tell you for sure,

except for the one. And.

But there's an experience and a maturity in A, being with the same person. And B,

I'm older, I'm mature, I have different. I look at the world in a different way. I want different things. I know who I am,

the good bits and the bad bits.

So I think there's a real element of that.

Suzie : Well, I think men experiment a lot less than women do in earlier life.

Mel: Yeah, but they don't, they don't need to. Of course. I think the older you are, like.

Suzie : Pump, pump, pump, let's go.

Mel: Exactly. And the older you get, you either need to get toys or there's just the curiosity or boredom or variety or any of the things. But it's just A, numbers get.

The longer you've been around, the more things you've probably done. Yeah, I mean, that's it.

And I think that most people now who are in their 50s or their gen Z's,

they're much more Open minded than their parents. So obviously they have done a lot of different things and they will have a different perspective on sex.

But yeah, I mean, and also I just think it's this thing like having an affair. I mean, it's a classic, isn't it? Having an affair with the older woman. Is that.

Suzie : It's very Mrs. Robinson.

Mel: It's very. Love it. Because she's never gonna. Well, it doesn't sound like maybe. I mean, there are some. The lunatics out there.

Suzie : She's very Mrs. Robinson as has a daughter in college.

Mel: Right, right, exactly. She's not going to. She doesn't want to marry him. No, it's just have some fun with.

Suzie : Them, which is great. He knows that.

Mel: I just hope for both of their sakes that they can do that and have their fun and in the process nobody else outside of there gets hurt. And that's, that's the problem with these situations.

Right.

Suzie : This is the biggest problem. Right. Is the actual affair. Because we're pumping them up right now.

Mel: We're excited for him, but we're excited. You know, he's lying, she's lying. This isn't, you know, I mean, I.

Suzie : Don'T know how much is he lying. Unless he's lying. Unless he's lying to his brother.

Mel: To his brother.

Suzie : Yeah. It's because he's not. He's the one who's not. This isn't even his neighborhood.

Mel: That's true.

Suzie : This isn't even his neighborhood. He could be the milkman for all they know.

Mel: How is he getting away with being in his brother's neighborhood?

Suzie : Because he's secretly being the Amazon delivery guy.

Mel: He's obviously speaking into this, coming in.

Suzie : House late at night in the laundry room.

Mel: I mean, you know, fair enough. It's pretty fun.

Suzie : I mean, yes, of course the affair is obviously the problem.

Nobody wants to admit to having an affair because you're unhappy in your marriage. You want to obviously give your marriage the benefit of the doubt, of being like, oh, I absolutely love my husband, but he does not give me sexually what I need anymore.

And,

and he's. Why hurt, why hurt him if you don't have to? He's away so much.

I'm hoping they have sex when he's there.

But if she's not, if they're not,

then she needs to have sex from somewhere.

Mel: I'm sorry. Yeah, I mean, it's a thing like we should probably.

Suzie : And I'm also saying he. Oh, the husband should also be having sex from somewhere else. If he's not. If she's not giving him sex.

Mel: Yeah. I mean, that's. Ultimately, that's what happens. I mean, that's why affairs happen for the most part.

Suzie : Well, if he's traveling to fun places like Europe and anywhere else in the.

Mel: States, like, it's because somebody's shut down.

You know, I think the other thing about women is that we're just. Because of the way we are built and the way.

Suzie : Yeah.

Mel: Desire of Blah, blah, blah. Works, libido. All this stuff works in women is we're much more able to kind of push it down, to kind of like, go on, you know, and just kind of gloss over the fact that we're essentially sexually frustrated.

I think it's a lot easier for women. I'm not saying it's good thing. I'm not saying it doesn't manifest in other places in your life. It absolutely does.

But biologically,

it's kind of easier for men. Obviously, there's, you know.

Suzie : Well, I think we.

Mel: It isn't. Yeah. Then the point is it gets to a point where it explodes.

Suzie : Yeah. We're able to be. To keep busier for somehow we're able.

Mel: To distract ourselves from the fact that we have this issue.

Suzie : Yes.

Mel: Men is very, very hard because biologically it's, you know, it's gonna, you know, come. Yeah.

Suzie : I mean, I've been on.

And I'm not saying this is a good thing at all, but I've been on the other side of like, a man cheating on his wife.

Right. So, like, I have been the bad woman.

Mel: The mistress.

Suzie : The mistress. I hate that word. But yeah, I've.

I've been on that side so that I understand that it's a weird thing because those men are still sleeping with their wives.

Mel: Yes, of course they are.

Suzie : Those men are still sleeping with their wives for the most part,

but they are not having the sex that they are hoping to have or like, that they're used to having because the woman's changed. The woman doesn't want.

Mel: There's a whole host of reasons why.

Suzie : Oh, there's so much.

Mel: I mean, it could all is also. This is what I'm. The point I'm making.

It's not just the man. It's. Maybe the woman wants sex, just not with him.

Suzie : That's also possible.

Mel: You know, like she wants.

You know, I like, if life is kind of like, boring and you talk about, you know, laundry or fudgeing, going to Costco, whatever you talk about, it's not all of a sudden going to be like, va va voomy in the.

In the laundry room.

You know, if your life has no interest and it's just like boring and you talk about drivel and there's no excitement and you never go and do exciting stuff like.

And I don't mean necessarily expenses though. But you don't go for dinner or whatever the hell is going for nice walks, drinking wine.

Exactly. Then how are you all of a sudden as a woman gonna go, oh yeah, great, let's just get on that French whip on that French lingerie and yeah, of course, get out my whips and whatever.

I did that for you and you can't. Right, well, so this is my problem. It's like it's both ways, right?

Suzie : Why would I as a young woman in my 30s,

that seeing men constantly cheat on their wives?

That seeing. I mean, I haven't, I haven't got to the age where my female friends are married yet. I have a lot of more married guy friends, but like I'm not seeing the women cheat on their husbands yet.

Mel: Maybe you don't know that.

Suzie : I feel like my friends would tell me if they're having an affair. My girlfriends would tell me if they're having an affair. I would hope anyways. I'm a very open person, you know, I'm very non judgmental person.

But I know a lot of men who cheat on their wives or who have cheated. We're not like doing it now, but like they have.

And as a third year old woman, why would I want to get married and have a relationship if I know that this is going most likely to be the end of the relationship?

Mel: But it's not.

Suzie : But it could be.

Mel: I'm the living proof of that. It's not, honestly.

Suzie : But there's honestly so many men who love their wives.

Mel: Yeah, but do they really, you know, look, it's just like, look,

you know, we're gonna go off on a tangent here, but lots of things happen. I've said this many times when you meet first of all, and it's all very passionate and then life intrudes and life for the most part is not sexy,

you know, and then my life.

Suzie : Is sexy right now, Mel, I know your life is. My life is sexy.

Mel: But most people's life isn't sexy. You have to do laundry and take kids to school and do all these things.

Suzie : That sounds horrible.

Mel: Take up time.

Suzie : So why can't I just keep my life the way it is?

Mel: Well, you, you know, by all means do that, but long term, is that what you want for the rest of your life?

Suzie : I don't Know, see, I don't know.

Mel: What if I'm like a hot 50s.

Suzie : Cougar on the prowl every night, you know? Well, yes, those 27 year olds get.

Mel: Chee with it if that's what you want to do.

Suzie : I don't know.

Mel: Far better for me to judge you, Susie. I know, but the, the men who are cheating on their wives 100% have those wives if you like, excuse me, shut up shop.

And don't want to have sex with their husbands.

That is part of it, yeah. But maybe they should ask themselves why.

Suzie : They'Re cheating on their wives. Why the women have stop having sex with them. Why are the women stopping having sex with them?

Mel: I guarantee you it's not always what you think. And maybe it's you and maybe, maybe it's not, but maybe it is. But I mean,

you know, there are many different situations out there.

And yes, there are a lot of men cheating on their wives and there are a lot of wives cheating on their husbands. But that doesn't have to be you. I think to be honest, for me that's just noise.

That is absolutely noise. And I,

that's noise that not every person, all these people are doing all this ****. **** it, who cares? Do you?

I don't live like that.

I, you know,

that's not my relationship.

And you know, we've worked hard at every aspect of our relationship and that is not an easy thing to do.

Suzie : No.

Mel: And I can tell you it takes a lifetime, it takes a very long time to work on all elements of your relationship and to keep working on it.

But it is actually if it works, and I'm not telling you that that's an easy thing, but when it works, that is the.

Is a great thing.

Does it mean, for example, my husband doesn't drive me insane sometimes? I don't drive him. Of course. Do we have arguments? Of course we do.

But the long term of having somebody in your life that loves you, supports you, who's there for you is amazing.

You know, like versus not having that.

Suzie : Versus having a sexy 27 year old man who comes to **** you on your dryer every day.

Mel: Well, I guess maybe this woman's figured it out. She's got both.

Suzie : I think she has.

Mel: Yeah. You're not letting me put across the nice point of view. I'm not.

Suzie : Because I think she's actually having a good time.

Mel: Yeah, I'm sure she is. And I, and she is. She definitely is. And I, like, I'm not okay with.

Suzie : Cheating, but I don't know. This Woman's situation. I don't know her husband's situation.

Mel: Look, we don't know the situation. We don't know how unhappy she is. We don't know whether she has an agreement with her husband. We just, we have no idea. And there could be all of those things.

So I do not judge her. I'm just saying generically, if you're lying. So there is lying going on here. Yeah. If there isn't lying, well then they're fine. But if they have lied or she is lying to her husband saying I'm very busy doing all your laundry, when in fact she's busy in the laundry,

but not doing the laundry,

she's doing the person in the laundry.

That is not long term gonna be a good thing.

Suzie : That's hard.

Mel: Of course, she's a Fitzhaul.

Suzie : Okay, so let's get back to.

Mel: Get back to it.

Suzie : The question. Yes at hand.

Mel: The question.

Suzie : Does he really need to end this or can he keep living in the fantasy?

Mel: Of course he can. He's not going to get arrested, is he? But I mean, do you hear that, babes?

Suzie : You're not going to get arrested.

Mel: I mean it's not against the law,

but. And he's not cheating. I mean he isn't cheating on somebody. But again,

this is.

Unless she.

Let me put it in these simple terms,

okay?

Unless she has an agreement with her husband or her husband knows or they have an agreement, they both do whatever they do in laundries or not in laundries rooms,

this is a lie on her part. And this will go wrong.

This will never actually end. It will end badly. It will end badly. Right? If somebody is lying, she's lying. It will end badly.

Now this has never stopped anybody for the entire of humanity.

Hasn't stopped you, has it? It doesn't stop anybody.

Suzie : I'm a bad girl though, right?

Mel: Well, fair enough. But I mean it doesn't stop people things, you know, if, if it doesn't stop us eating cake or smoking or drinking or you know, or, or you know,

whatever. Just because it's wrong.

Suzie : Sex, drugs and rock and roll, baby.

Mel: Bad for you. People do it. That's not the point.

So should he. It's really up to him.

Yeah, and, and, and, and I guess he,

if he's thinking about this. So his now his mind is involved in this thing, which is now my mind never is a good thing. He needs to have a conversation with her and maybe he needs to understand.

Maybe he doesn't understand. Maybe they've never had this conversation because Then that would make it unsexy.

Because the part of the sexiness is the fact that it's secret. So if then he suddenly finds out, the husband says it's okay, maybe he won't be sexy anymore.

Suzie : Yeah. No, honey, you can do whatever you need to do. It's not on you to end this.

Mel: But you're still thinking about it.

Suzie : No. Who cares?

Mel: Well, yeah.

Suzie : Like, truly, it doesn't matter for him. Right? Like this is for. This is.

Mel: It doesn't matter.

Suzie : It doesn't matter for you.

Mel: He doesn't have a relationship.

Suzie : Just don't get her. I'm hoping if she's not in menopause yet. I'm assuming she is. But don't get her pregnant.

Mel: That would be a.

Suzie : Don't get her pregnant. I don't know what state you're in in the us don't get her pregnant. Okay.

No, this is what I'm saying.

Sex is where practicing it comes from.

Mel: So that's it.

Suzie : Just. Just letting everyone know.

Mel: Yes.

Suzie : Unless we're doing ****. But don't get her pregnant.

Mel: No, it's terrible.

Suzie : Use a condom because you don't know who else she's sleeping with.

Mel: Well, this is ****.

Suzie : Maybe potentially is sleeping with a gaggle of little boy. Not little boys. She probably is sleeping with a gaggle of young men.

Mel: If this was a party. Maybe there's laundry more. He's in the laundry on Mondays. Somebody's in the pool cabana on Tuesdays. Somebody else is in the.

Suzie : On the peloton on Wednesdays. Yeah. Yeah.

Mel: I mean, yeah.

Suzie : Maybe she's putting it about I'm obsessed with her,

but yeah. So I don't think this guy needs to worry. I think it's just, wear condom. Don't get her pregnant.

Get your rocks off.

Don't get caught by a husband walking. Or your brother after his trip. By her brother. Or the kids that are coming home from college. This is the. This is the problem.

And then we're gonna be done. But this is the problem. Right. And you know this all too well.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie : Is that kids come in unannounced.

Mel: Oh, yeah.

Suzie : Because this is their house. Right. So they're gonna come in. They're gonna walk in.

Mel: Yeah. Mom, I'm home. And just dreadful.

Suzie : You are going to be in the laundry room.

Mel: If there's a latch, you're gonna be.

Suzie : In the laundry room.

Mel: We'll lock that door. Lock the door. Put the dryer on. Then they won't know. Oh, my God.

Suzie : Anyways,

we'd love to know what you guys think about this. Have you had a sexy, slutty little affair? We want to know,

with an older woman? An older man?

Okay, I'm trying to get out of here.

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Mel: Next time.

Suzie : Bye.

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Suzie : Bye.

Mel: Three, two, one.

Suzie : Sam.