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Hey, babes.

Mel: Hello, darling.

Suzie : Hey. How are you?

Mel: I'm fine. I'm fabulous. Wonderful. Super duper as this.

Suzie : When this episode releases, I will be 30 years old.

Mel: You will be.

Suzie : I'm an old woman. Well, I'm in my old woman era.

Mel: You're getting closer to me.

Suzie : It's pretty terrifying.

This past weekend I had a little early birthday party and Mel was there, which was amazing with her wonderful husband.

Was a little nervous because I didn't know,

you know, how cool they were.

I just was, I was just like, you know, everyone's going to be doing their thing. You know, we're all late 20s, early 30 year olds and,

you know, we didn't, we didn't know, we didn't know how it was gonna go. What? Great though.

Mel: Yep. We left at what, 2, 2:30.

Suzie : All of my friends were asking Mal therapist questions. It was so good.

Mel: It was pretty funny.

Suzie : Everyone was just trauma dumping on you.

Mel: That's fine. That's fine.

Suzie : I'm like, yeah, this is my life. I don't, this is why I don't need a therapist. I just have Mel,

like, I know.

No, it was great. It was a fun weekend. The hangovers kicking in today, but that's fine.

Mel: Did I post like a day late.

Suzie : It's a day late thing? I think I was still, it's potentially. I was still drunk yesterday.

Mel: That's probably true.

Suzie : And it was so sunny and nice that it was just like, it just lifted me up.

Mel: Yeah. You know, and you probably like you, you sort of eat when you have hangover and it sort of helps. A lot of sugar, a lot of whatever.

Suzie : And we cleaned. Yeah, my friend Sam stayed with me and we just cleaned the place. And it wasn't that bad. And you know, when you have the energy to do it, you just have to do it then, because otherwise you'll never do it.

Mel: You'll never do it.

Suzie : But it was excellent. And Sam. Hey, shut up. One of my tall friends. Tall man friends.

Mel: Yeah. He is quite tall, isn't he?

Suzie : Quite tall and handsome.

Mel: He's very handsome. He's very nice. And he's quite tall.

Suzie : You know what's interesting about him? He only likes short girls.

Mel: Okay. That doesn't work the other way though, does it? Why does he only like short girls?

Suzie : He only likes short girls. And I've tried to, like, set him up with my girlfriend friends. And he is very specific. Which he's allowed to be.

Mel: Absolutely. Absolutely. I think.

Well,

you know, sorry, Sam, we're talking about you a lot. Is that it's a masculine, feminine thing. Maybe it's just more feminine for him. That makes sense. Why can't he like short girls?

Suzie : But here's the thing. Women. Exactly. Women like tall guys.

Mel: So here's. Here's a question.

Suzie : Yes.

Mel: Because what are we talking about today?

Suzie : Short and tall men.

Mel: Tall. The short. So here's my question.

Suzie : Better than Roby Wade. No.

Mel: Go ahead. What was I talking about? Is what for you is tall?

Suzie : Such a good question.

Mel: And what is short?

Suzie : Exactly. So for me, for dating wise, for men, I believe, like five, seven is too short for me.

Mel: Okay.

Suzie : Specifically five, eight, I can deal with five, eight and up is excellent. But for me, because I'm only five two.

Mel: You're five two?

Suzie : Five one and a half. Five two. What a good day. I like. I like to wear heels, though.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie : So I definitely want to still be shorter than the guy when I'm wearing high heels. So that's kind of my rule.

Mel: Yes.

Suzie : You know,

but there is a thing for me about a guy being too tall.

And I used to love tall guys. Like, when I was younger, I would only date tall guys. Like tall guys. Like six two. And I'm, you know, been the same height for a really long time.

I like, hit a growth spurt in fifth grade and never grew after that.

And.

And then I just like. Yeah. So then I. And then I realized. And then my ex wasn't like that tall. He's probably like, you know, 5, 11ish. 5,

you know, whatever. And it was great. And I like, loved that height difference.

And I've never been able to get Back into, like the tall men phase. Because I just find them. I'm like, it hurts my neck.

Mel: Yeah. So while you've.

Suzie : And holding hands is weird.

Mel: Well, everything's weird. Sex is weird. Because you look at a human body, you're at the wrong alignment.

Suzie : It's too. It's too difficult.

Mel: Very difficult to do anything. Very conventional things.

Suzie : Absolutely.

Mel: You know, because otherwise you're. Well, so your face is at his *****. I mean, good for him. But it's not helpful for anything else, is it?

Suzie : It's not.

Mel: Think about the alignment of things. You have to think about these things.

So you've answered my question. What about you? So that. Leading on to my answer. Thank you.

Is I would caveat it by saying I never thought about it when I was younger. If you said to me, five, nine, six, whatever. All I thought about.

Suzie : And this is sexual alignment.

Mel: No, that came later. But I think it's an excellent point.

Suzie : Absolutely.

Mel: Is he just has to be taller than me. And I'm like you. I'm probably. Now I say five, two, but I think that's being very optimistic, very generous.

Suzie : I think that's nice.

Mel: Five one.

Suzie : Yeah, yeah.

Mel: Or lower. So pretty much everyone's taller.

Suzie : It's the ***** that hang you down. It's hard to stand up straight.

Mel: *****.

Suzie : You kind of just been like. Yeah, they do, you know, but they do.

Mel: But everyone's taller than me, right?

Suzie : Yeah, me too, pretty much.

Mel: You know, I never really thought about it. I would say on average,

my husband is meant to be 5, 9. Apparently he shrunk a bit. So he's about somewhere between five eight, five, nine.

Suzie : Right.

Mel: Men get older. They do shrink. Sorry. And I.

Suzie : Women do too.

Mel: Yeah, yeah, women as well. I. In my. So he's five. That's like. Let's say five, eight and a half.

Suzie : Right.

Mel: Be nice.

Suzie : That's very sweet.

Mel: And I'm five one and a bit,

so that's.

Exactly. Obviously, that's fine. I could wear heels. I could wear. You know, I don't wear very high heels anymore, but that's fine. And I think that's all I ever thought about was somebody being taller than me.

Now, having said that, when I was younger, I also dated a lot of very tall men. So I had a boyfriend for quite a long time.

He was in the army. And he's probably. He was probably 6 foot 2, 6 foot 3 in the army. Tall, English guy, sniper.

It was an officer in the British Army.

Suzie : He was actually a medicine man.

Mel: No, he probably did shoot people.

But anyway, he was Very tall. And then I had another boyfriend who was pretty tall too.

But I don't think I ever really gave it a huge amount of thought.

And now there's this whole thing that men seem to be traumatized about it and women seem to be asking for this 666 thing which is six foot tall.

Six foot inch.

Six foot. Yeah, six inch. Six foot inch *****. Six foot *****.

Suzie : Hello.

Mel: Oh my God. 60th, six inch *****.

Suzie : Got it.

Mel: Six figure salary, which is completely ******* absurd.

Would like to remind everyone number one. Yeah. Six feet tall. If you're five foot one, why the **** does he have to be six feet tall?

Suzie : Totally.

Mel: What difference does it make?

Suzie : Totally.

Mel: Like if he's a great guy, why in God's name are you getting whatevered over that six inch *****? Well, you know.

Yeah, but you could probably go a bit depend on the guy.

Suzie : Doesn't have to be 6 inches.

Mel: Doesn't have to be 6 inches.

Suzie : Girth matters, of course. Okay.

Mel: I mean this is, this is ridiculous. And six figure salary, that is a lot of money, everyone. And you know, and.

Suzie : Yeah, what I. Preferably 7 salary.

Mel: Well, yeah, but you know what I mean.

Suzie : No, of course.

Mel: What are you earning? What are you, you know. Anyway, but so I don't. I think it's quite a recent thing that women are very hung up on the number of the height.

Right. So I think women have always wanted taller men because. But not necessarily tall men, just taller than them. I think that's important.

However,

I do have friends who are quite tall or, you know, taller than the average. And their husband might be the same height or very, very slightly taller because they're very tall.

So. And they're not bothered by it. And why should they be? I mean, for goodness sake, you're honestly gonna tell me that you've got this great man and you're gonna get hung up over,

you know, the height,

the height. If it's not like, I mean,

if my husband was 5 foot 4, I might be a bit like, that's a bit weird. Well, this is the thing, I'm not getting hung up over 5, 7, 5, 8, 5, 9, 5, 10.

And women, do they get hung up about it, but I think it's just.

Suzie : Because they don't understand,

like I, it's irrelevant. Like I actually love,

like,

I hate calling them shorter because they're not short, but like, you know, in the 5, 8 to 5, 10 range.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie : Those are where the best guys are.

Mel: Yes.

Suzie : For whatever reason I have found the best guys, the best in bed, the Best dancers, they are the nicest. They will take care of you. This is like a group of men,

I don't know why, in this little like area of height, they're just like the sweetest, best guys.

And women are like, I need a guy who's over 6 foot. And I'm like, have you met a man who's 5, 8? He will take such good care of you and he'll dance on the dance floor.

Mel: Yeah. So I think actually what it is is that most people think they know what foot is totally. And they actually don't.

Suzie : Well, it's hard because men also lie. Like men, you have to stop lying about your height.

Mel: Lying about your.

Suzie : Why are you lying about your height? Like women actually, they say that they care and for sure. And then.

But we know what six foot looks like. You know what I mean?

Mel: Like, it's obvious.

Suzie : Lie.

Mel: But some women, I think they think that six foot. I'm not sure they do. Like, I think I do know what six foot is, but I think people have this odd sense of it.

Like, like for example, if a man is 5 foot 10 or 5 foot 9.

Really, what is the difference? It's.

Suzie : Well, it's like 4 inches.

Mel: No, but if you're, if you're like 4 inches, 5 foot 3, what difference does it make?

Suzie : No. 100.

Mel: Stupid. You're being stupid.

Suzie : It's so stupid. And you don't want those women anyways if. Who care that much about height.

Mel: I know.

Suzie : So it's like, why are you lying on your dating profile?

Mel: This is a very good question. Stop lying on your dating profile. Stop lying on your dating profile because you're going to meet in real life and then everything's going to come about.

I don't think people carry tape measures. Maybe somebody does.

Suzie : Well, for the ***** checking. Of course I do.

Mel: You do.

Suzie : For the 666. It's more like, you know, 6, 6, 5, 8.

Mel: Agreed. That's for me, 100% agreed.

Suzie : Yeah.

Mel: 5, 8, 6 inch or above? *****.

Suzie : Above.

Mel: And no, I'm just kidding. At least six. Six, six.

Suzie : Salary.

Mel: Perfect.

Suzie : Yeah, done.

Mel: But I think, yeah,

I think it's because,

and I can only say this from somebody who's very short,

is that people seem to think your Persona is all wrapped up in your height.

Right.

And for me,

I'm always like, well, people always pointed out you're really short. And I'm like, oh, thanks very much.

I know I'm short.

Suzie : But here's the thing.

Mel: I don't walk around thinking about it.

Suzie : But this is why Mel. Because we're like the same height and we have very big personalities.

Mel: Right. So literally, that is a short. It is a thing.

Suzie : It is a short person thing for sure.

And I used to wear heels a lot when I was younger and people had no idea how tall I actually was. So when I had like, when I wore like flat shoes or I took my heels off, they're like, holy ****, you're short.

And I'm like, yeah, but I have a huge tall person personality and it's actually so funny. So this guy I'm seeing was at my party this past weekend and he was like.

And you were there, obviously. And he's like, oh, Mel is so much smaller in person.

I was like, yeah, she's surprised me. But like, it's because we have these tall personalities.

Mel: But maybe we've got that the wrong way around because maybe tall people don't have big personalities.

Suzie : Right.

Mel: But like, she thought about it.

Suzie : It's like a. It's like a mental game. It's like. It's like, how tall do they seem? Because they are like talking from the mountains.

Mel: Well, I think tall people also like, you'll especially tall men.

And I'm thinking about this because I've just watch the end of White Lotus and Theo James, second season. Yeah, Second season.

Suzie : So everyone's on the third. Come on.

Mel: Yeah, I know. Yeah. I'm behind second season of White Lotus and Theo James, your favorite.

So he's what a lot. Yeah. What a lot of women think. Tall,

gorgeous accent, blah, blah, blah. All the rest of it. Exactly. Although I thought his American accent was terrible.

He probably does.

I'm sure he does.

Suzie : I'll look it up later.

Mel: Anyway. Distracted. But he, he. I think in that show he plays tall man energy, like very arrogant.

Really thinks he's. I mean, I know he is hot, but so funny.

Suzie : I didn't actually find him as hot in White Lotus. I find him really hot in the gentleman. Because he's a gentleman.

Mel: Yeah. But yeah, Anyway, keep going. But exactly. That's exactly. Like he plays this typical kind of arrogant.

Suzie : Yeah.

Mel: Guy that you would associate with somebody who was that attractive. That tall. Muscular. Makes money.

Suzie : Yeah.

Mel: And that to me is deeply unappealing.

Suzie : Right.

Mel: But so it's. But is he doing. Is it the tall person energy that I think tall people, because obviously they look above everyone.

They towering over you, particularly us.

And so they don't actually have to project anything because everyone can ******* see them. They don't like it. It's easier. Right, right. Like you don't have the issues of being short where,

you know, you're looking like you're looking up at people or you have to get on. I don't know how many footstools to reach everything, which is what I have to do.

Yeah. Or.

But yeah, I think this thing about men, 5 foot 8, 5 foot 9, I think it's because they.

Well, it's sort of a normal height.

Suzie : It's just a weird thing.

Mel: It's a normal height.

Suzie : I know.

Mel: So like, compensate.

Suzie : I don't know that many tall, tall guys, but I do remember and this also could be a hot guy thing.

Mel: Okay.

Suzie : Okay.

So I have a very, I don't want to say weird taste, but I'm much more of a personality girl. Right. Like, I like a guy with a great personality. He has to be nice, like, he has to be kind, he has to be generous.

Like all these like, personality traits that are good.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie : For me, looks is not the number one thing. Obviously they have to be. I have to be attracted to them. But looks are not like my number one thing.

And there is this Hawkeye who I used to be friends with. And I have had many of my own friends sleep with him.

And because he's hot and he's hot, he's tall, he seems nice,

horrible in bed.

And I don't have this. Like, I've never slept with him, but I've heard it from multiple of my friends.

Mel: Interesting.

Suzie : Horrible in bed.

Mel: And in a selfish way.

Suzie : In a selfish way, really doesn't give much, you know, and just like not very adventurous.

Mel: Interesting.

Suzie : But you're tall, you're confident, you're totally hot, like conventionally, really good looking and yet you're not fun in bed.

Mel: Do you think he thinks he doesn't have to bother?

Suzie : Well, this is the thing. Are tall men worse? And this is why I have so much more fun with like in quote, shorter guys.

Because they kind of have to try a little harder and you know, they are just more fun in general. Like, they don't have to put up this front of like, oh, I'm a tall guy, so I have to be hot, so I have to be the best guy around.

Do you know what I mean?

Mel: Well, yeah, I guess it's not all on their physical appearance. Although we're saying no.

Suzie : They're kind of lean on their personalities a little bit more.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie : For tall guys, it's just like they get so much attention anyways so they don't have to work on their real personalities or their ***** licking skills.

Mel: ***** licking skills.

Suzie : Absolutely.

Mel: Wow. Only you would say that. But it's true.

Suzie : True.

Mel: It is true.

Suzie : True.

Mel: Yeah. I mean, but is it the same for women or just for men?

The height, like so, so men,

women want taller men. So that's so. I don't know.

Suzie : Generally.

Mel: Yeah, yeah. So you're saying you like shorter guys when actual fact they're tall for you?

Suzie : Well, they're tall for me. They're not short. They're like. I'm like,

like I'm gonna be honest, I'm not gonna go for like a 5, 2 guy, but like that's just me. I need someone who's taller, who looks down upon me.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie : In a sweet little way.

Mel: But that, yeah, but that really starts at 5 foot 7 because you' yes, but so 5 foot 8, 5 foot 9 is actually the perfect range.

And it's strange, like we had a comment on YouTube the other day about a guy who said he can't. He's only 5 foot 8 and he can't get dates. And I'm like, I don't understand it.

I don't understand.

Suzie : I'm sorry, but that's not a height thing. That's.

Mel: Who are these women? That's also just like you being 5 8.

Suzie : I mean, big **** energy.

Mel: That's it.

Suzie : You gotta have that bde. Because I don't understand, like you cannot have a short guy with a short personality.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie : You have to make up for it in other ways. And our short girls have to do it. We would be overlooked in the crowd.

Mel: That's absolutely it.

You have to hustle more. You got to hustle, push more. Absolutely. Because no people would just push you out of the way. I'll push other people out, of course. Yeah.

No, you're absolutely right. But so, so going back to my question,

so it's this thing for women about men's height. What about men and women's height?

What is the thing?

Is there a thing?

Suzie : What do you mean the thing of men and women's height?

Mel: Well, so that women,

we seem to be so specific and this seems to be a fairly recent thing, this 666 thing. But this 6 foot tall thing, I think it's been going on for a while.

Like men,

you know, that women have this very specific idea of what a handsome man is. This essentially, or a nice man or a good man or a date bound or whatever it has to be.

Yeah. And that is actually very tall for the average woman. Six foot tall, right? Yeah.

So what do men think about women? Do they have like height things about Women.

Well, they say.

Suzie : This is what I'm saying. So my friend Sam has to be shorter.

Mel: But what does he mean by shorter?

Suzie : So what's like my height?

Mel: Ah, okay.

Suzie : I'm five two. He's like six foot, I'm assuming.

Mel: Oh, is. I don't know.

Suzie : Yeah, he's definitely tall. Like, he's a tall guy for me, you know? Like, he's definitely tall. So, like, it's a. It's an interesting thing because he loves shorter girls. I know a lot of guys who like shorter girls, but also tall women.

Sexy,

sexy legs.

Models.

And a lot of men obviously love that, but it's harder for those men to get those tall girls. So why are they focusing on them?

Mel: Yeah. So where are all the tall girls going?

Suzie : Well, they're going for even taller men, you know?

Mel: Yeah.

Well, I think the sort of ideal of women is. Yeah, long legs,

you know?

Yeah. But it's not like somebody with short legs. It's somebody with long legs.

Suzie : No. And I got these little cat, you know, I feel like, what? I got these, like, sturdy legs.

Mel: You do not have.

Suzie : I feel like I got sturdy legs. I'm not ashamed of them, but I know I don't have Victoria's Secret model legs. Walking down.

Mel: Well, you're not tall enough.

Suzie : Well, exactly.

Mel: It's not really about the shape of your leg. It's about the length of your leg.

Suzie : And also, you know. Well, they're just.

I work out on my legs, right. Like, I'm not like, you know, a teeny, tiny Pilates girl.

I squat with weight.

And so, you know, it's going to give you legs and it's going to give you ***. And that's what. That's the body that I. That I like.

And I'm going to attract the guys who like a girl like me. And so I feel like people just have to stop wanting to be loved by everyone.

Mel: Absolutely.

Suzie : Like, this is why we have types. It's okay. But the guys who are short maybe change your type if you want a tall girl.

Mel: Absolutely. But I really want to know from people like, you know, we've had some comments about this, but,

like, are you really not dating because women won't date you because you're 5 foot 8?

I don't. I don't. I don't get it. I'm sorry. I really don't get it. Because I know lots of men who are five foot eight and they've all got wives, girlfriends, et cetera.

If. If you are. I think I answered this. If you are kind if you are funny,

if you have some kind of prospects, like, you know,

you, you have some kind of provider energy,

you're working towards something. Yeah, you're working towards something,

whatever it is. But you know, you're stepping up and it is. This is a little old fashioned, but stepping up as a man,

you do not have to be five foot and ten. Six foot. No, absolutely. There are a bajillion women out there.

Suzie : Looking for you and people are getting shorter.

Mel: Are they?

Suzie : Yeah, people aren't as tall as they used to be. I'm pretty sure.

Mel: I don't know.

Suzie : I'm pretty sure that's a thing. People are literally getting shorter in the world.

Mel: I thought people were getting taller.

Suzie : No, because we're all hunching.

Mel: Oh. But not look like, like genetically short. I mean, I think.

Suzie : But I also think genetically shorter. Yes too, because it's an, you know, it's an adaptive trait.

Mel: Interesting. Well, I, I don't know. I don't know.

Suzie : Like, we're not mountain people anymore. We don't need to do things. So we're just becoming these short little people. Maybe there's nothing wrong with that, but I don't think.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie : I've never got the height thing that it was such a big deal. To be honest. I've never understood it. I have a lot of girlfriends and I'm gonna be honest, guys, I do have a lot of hot girlfriends.

That it is a thing for them. But also I also think that those women have questionable taste in other ways.

Mel: Yeah, I mean, it really is a thing they should focus less on. I do understand if you're tall,

it might be tricky for somebody who's shorter than you. I do, I do understand that. And I know that is actually why is that the case. We're living in this world where we're more equal.

So why the hell do we care that we're a.

A taller woman with a shorter man if he's a great man?

I've no idea. And to be honest, it isn't right, is it? But at the end of the day, if you find each other and you are a taller woman, and it does happen sometimes, and the man's shorter and you have a great relationship, why do you give a **** what everybody else thinks?

Right. You know, who cares?

But I think you're absolutely right. If you are hung up as a woman on height to this number, that it has to be 6 foot or over,

I would question whether you actually know what ******* six foot is. And it's ****** tall. Yeah. And if you are anywhere between 5 foot 2 and 5 foot 5, 5 foot 6.

Why the hell does he have to be 6 foot?

Suzie : What about Tom Holland and Zendaya?

Mel: Yeah, so they're the same height.

Suzie : No, she is so much taller than him.

Mel: Well, they don't give a **** because they're famous. Yeah, but exactly.

Suzie : But like she is. But this is what I'm saying. It's like she is still like, you know, absolutely gorgeous. He is very cute.

Mel: He's got, he's got.

Suzie : He's a man, you know, he's a big. He looks like a baby man to me.

Mel: He does. He's a bit of a baby. My cup of tea.

Suzie : No, but like they are together. They look like they're having such a happy life.

Mel: Exactly.

Suzie : And she's so tall. Yeah, and he got her. But also I think she's obviously a personality girl. Right?

Mel: 100%.

Suzie : So you're gonna find all these funny little couple people. Yeah, I mean, really doesn't matter.

Mel: That is the point that if you. And we're talking specifically about women here.

If you are eliminating so many things, like you're eliminating men because their next things went tall. You're eliminating men because they don't have quite a 6 inch *****. You're eliminating them because they don't make quite six figures.

You're eliminating them because of yada yada. I mean, Jesus. Who's left? Right?

I mean, and who are you exactly asking for this? Right.

Suzie : Yeah. And that's the thing. It's like,

it's like your standards should be high.

To what extent?

Right. Like obviously you're not gonna go for someone who is disrespectful to you or you shouldn't be. But it's just, this is, this is getting ridiculous.

Mel: It's the emphasis on the wrong thing.

Suzie : Exactly.

Mel: The emphasis should be he is a good man. We're talking men to women. He's a good man.

He's kind.

You know, and secondary thing is the sort of provider energy or signaling towards private provider energy. And I only say that because I know it annoys people, but it's a reality.

And we really should not.

Suzie : We live in a very expensive world.

Mel: Yeah, it's.

Suzie : And women, if you, if you want her to have your babies, you're gonna have to provide. Yeah, that is just the thing.

Mel: But you don't have to be the CEO of, of whatever.

Suzie : No.

Mel: You know, so if you are a really nice guy and above all you are funny and you are reasonably good looking, I just cannot understand why these women would Be going, oh, you're not thinking that at all.

And you know,

I'm sorry if that's the case. On behalf of all women, I think that's wrong.

I think that's ridiculous. And these women are going to be alone.

Suzie : Yeah.

Mel: They're going to end up alone and probably not terribly happy. And you're focusing on the wrong thing. You really are.

It's just, you know, and unless you are a six foot,

whatever model that looks like,

I don't know, sort of bar Raffaele or one of these amazing looking women. Right.

How are you finding that? How are you gonna work with a 6 foot 5, 6 foot 3? You've got to be talish yourself. Yeah. Because everything's off. Everything doesn't work.

I find when I talk to really tall people. Yeah. You're sort of doing this all the time. All the time. And then they're looking down.

And then when they look down at you, you do feel. Wow, this is quite a distance actually.

Suzie : So, like I was at. This is. Okay, so this episode kind of came up because I was at this party and it was like a clubby dancey party.

And I had so much more fun dancing with the short. And I hate the saying the shorter guys, but like the ones who were not 6 foot because I like brought this like the 6.

However tall guy was to me because I would like want to dance with him. And I was like, this is so uncomfortable.

Mel: Yeah. Yeah.

Suzie : And then I was dancing with this other guy who's so sweet. Probably like, probably like five, eight, Right. Great dancer. Had so much more fun with him.

Mel: And I was like this.

Suzie : This just makes sense.

Mel: Yes.

Suzie : You know, and that's okay. Why do we, why do we put so much emphasis on the tall, tall, tall guys. They don't deserve it.

Mel: They don't. It's ridiculous.

Suzie : Oh, sorry. Tall guys. Yeah.

Mel: I mean, tall women date tall guys.

Shorter women go like, like, you know, and the women in between,

well, you've got a lot more range. I guess you've got a lot more choice. But stop. It's just ridiculous and it's annoying.

And stop doing it. And stop doing it. Stop doing it. People, please, people. I know I technically lied about my age, so I'm. I'm berating myself too. But stop lying about your height.

Did I say lying about my age? Lying about my.

Suzie : You shouldn't lie about your age either.

Mel: I'm losing my mind today. Stop lying about your height. Stop it, stop it, stop it.

Suzie : Like if I was going to date a woman as a woman A woman as a woman. A woman as a woman. If I was going to date a woman,

I would date a woman my height.

Mel: Yes.

Suzie : Or maybe a little bit taller or even a little bit shorter.

Mel: Why is that?

Suzie : But my height, I just. It's more comfortable.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie : Yeah. Also, I don't know. I don't want her leaning down to kiss me. It's very weird.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie : I don't know. That's weird.

Mel: In my head, I have no idea. I've never given it a nanosecond's worth of thought. The height of the world.

Suzie : Trust me, I like. I like. I like models just as much as the next person.

But, yeah, I just. I think I do. What makes sense in my head.

And what makes sense is people who are on my height level.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie : And then it also. Yeah. Makes it way more easy for someone to make a move, too. But if they're too tall, you can see it coming too much.

Mel: But I think this lying or this thing about height has come about because of the dating apps. So you have to put your height. Do you have to put your height?

I don't know. What am I saying? I don't even know.

Suzie : On some of them, you do.

Mel: So if you put.

Suzie : Yeah, I imagine. Yeah, I know.

Mel: It's not like I ******* know, but it's like. So you put your height because.

And you probably add a smidge to it if you're a man,

because you're worried,

and I understand this, that if you say, actually, no, I'm five, eight and a half, half the women will discount you,

which is completely stupid, crazy. But they'll discount you because you're 5 foot 8. Because I think somehow in your mind,

you think 5 foot 8 isn't tall enough. But if you're 5 foot 4, 5 foot 3, 5,

what's the problem? He's taller.

So this is. This is my bit wisdom, my piece of wisdom. Go for somebody who's taller.

Not a specific height,

just taller.

Suzie : Yeah.

Mel: And I'm sorry for the people who are dating or the shorter. Yeah. So what do we say about the really short men? We've got to say something to them.

Suzie : They will find who they are meant to find.

Mel: There are really short women even shorter than us.

Suzie : Well, this is maybe. And this is why we should have a short man on the show. It's just like,

do you want to date a tall girl or does it feel emasculating? Are you trying to only find shorter women?

Mel: What, do they have really big personalities?

Suzie : Men don't want to date taller women than Them, I mean.

Mel: No, I know.

Suzie : So that shouldn't even be a problem.

Mel: Well, it's a problem in the sense that. How many people do you meet on a daily basis? The shore looks shorter than you.

Suzie : Not a lot of men that are shorter than me. Is that what you mean?

Mel: No, what I mean is if you're. You're five. If you're five foot two.

Suzie : Yes.

Mel: And we'll be honest, I'm five foot one.

So a five foot four man,

Right.

He probably needs to date a woman who's five foot to. For her to be a little bit taller.

And we're already on. We're really very short.

So. How many people do you meet that are shorter than you? I don't meet many.

Suzie : You know what? I don't meet many either, but I do know some.

Mel: Yeah, okay. About the same height. 5 foot 4. 5 foot 4? What's wrong with that?

Suzie : Yeah, I don't know. I feel like it sounds really funny, but the 58 girls are taller than the 58 guys. And I think that's just because they're lying about their height.

Mel: Oh, you mean they're tall? They're actually taller.

Suzie : No, I feel like the guys are lying about their height. Like they're not actually 5 8. Do you know what I mean?

Mel: Oh, yes.

Suzie : Like the five eight girls are probably lying because they're actually five nine. And the five eight guys are actually lying because they're five seven.

Mel: I think that's absolutely true.

Suzie : Yeah.

Mel: The other thing is you. You lose height as you get older.

But I think most men lie about it because I think they feel they have to lie about it. Because if they tell the truth, like, we'll all go,

you know, kind of thing. And it's just a ridiculous point.

Suzie : Absolutely.

Mel: It's just stupid if the guy is great.

Okay, so this is a scenario before. I'm gonna stop talking in a minute. So let's say you're five seven, five six. Me? No, a girl, five six.

Suzie : Right. If I was at five six.

Mel: Yeah, if you were five six.

Suzie : I've dreamt about being five' six.

Mel: Okay, so you're five' six, which is above average. Right. Was that average? ****. Why? I know. I think it's a bit average. Bit above average. He's five.

Suzie : Does that mean I'm special?

Mel: No, it means you're short, Susie. So let's say you're a five foot. What the **** did I say? I forgot now.

Suzie : Five seven, six.

Mel: Five six, girl.

Suzie : Girl.

Mel: Great. And you meet a guy who is five nine.

So just a Smidge taller than you,

but he's great.

He's got a big ding dong,

he makes money and he's fabulous company and he's really funny and blah, blah, blah. Why do you give a flying about the fact that he's only five?

Suzie : I actually know.

So here's the weird thing, actually, now that I'm thinking about it. Five, seven, six.

So she's girls. Five, six guys, five, eight. Is that what you're trying to say? Five, nine.

Mel: Checking out now? Yes, exactly. So he's a smidge taller. Yeah, but he's not tall.

Suzie : Okay, here's the here and now.

Mel: I'm. Why do you care?

Suzie : This is interesting. So actually I feel like I know girls because I'm one of the shortest. I feel like in my friend group they're mostly like five four or five.

Five maybe.

And so I feel like a lot of them date guys their height.

Mel: Well, they pro. They have to. Otherwise they deliminate. Right. But. But then we're contradicting.

Suzie : I think I only have one girlfriend who is actually in a serious relationship with someone who's over 6 foot.

And the rest are like either dating guys or they're in relationships with men. They're not their height, but like guys who are like under six foot, let's say.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie : Right.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie : So I don't think it's actually. We make such a big deal out of heights, especially for men.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie : And it doesn't make any sense.

Mel: I think it's become a big deal because if you meet at a party or a bar or something. Right. Yeah. You just meet somebody and they're attractive and if they're a bit high, a bit higher, bit taller than you, a little bit higher, then.

Then great.

You don't think too much about it. But because people are meeting on apps where you have to, you know, ******* itemize all the ****. Everything.

It's. It means everyone has all these judgments about stuff that are totally not important because the thing. As if you met that person in real life, you'd be like, great.

You wouldn't even think about it. If they were nice and you had a great conversation and you had a party and had fun together and then you went on a date and you had great sex and blah, blah, blah.

You wouldn't give a **** about the fact that he wasn't.

Suzie : You wouldn't even talk about it.

Mel: You wouldn't even talk about it. But because it comes up because we're so focused because of the apps, because it itemizes all this stuff and it makes you Try and present or project this image of who you are.

So I think men are about telling the truth. So they try and project what they think women want and they project this big I'm the big man. Big I am big man kind of thing.

Suzie : I am big man.

Mel: Exactly. Big I am. That's a. Anyway, nevermind.

And then women are sort of saying they want all this stuff when I actually don't think they care. No.

So it's got to be something to do with apps that has made us think about it because I don't think I thought about it.

I'm thinking I do have one friend where the husband is shorter and they've been married for like 20 years. Height doesn't matter. It's matter at all.

Suzie : But **** size does.

Mel: Absolutely. And. And actually this would be my final point. Okay. There are a lot of short men with very large *****.

Suzie : Oh, ****. Yeah, there are.

Mel: So maybe you should pick your battles there, girls.

Suzie : No, seriously. And girth means more than length.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie : If you know what I mean.

Mel: Yeah. But there are a lot of short men with large penises and they show them off more.

They should. I mean, I. I don't want to start a whole frenzy where men are like, just please don't do that because that's not a good idea.

Suzie : But no, Yeah, I think we agree with this.

Mel: I think we do.

Suzie : We're supposed to disagree.

Mel: Yeah. But we're not on this point anyway, like that. Should I disagree for the hell of it? I hate you.

Suzie : Okay, well, what do you guys think? I know this is a very controversial topic, especially to you men.

You guys have a lot of opinions because you could think all women are about it,

but we're on your side.

We are to some extent.

Mel: Yeah. If you're a nice guy, I'm on your side.

Suzie : If you're a nice guy, we're on your side.

Mel: If you're not.

Suzie : But yeah, if you are having trouble getting a lady because you say you're too short, I think you're just going for the wrong women.

Mel: I think you are.

Suzie : You're going for the wrong women, guys. And you just focus on the women who are nice and who don't care about something as superficial as height.

Mel: So shallow.

Suzie : Doesn't make sense to me. And don't worry, you'll find your person.

Mel: And everything will be okay.

Suzie : Just keep going on those dates. Gotta kiss more frogs. Frogs. What is it for men?

Mel: It's a good question. Witches?

Suzie : Dragons. Oh, they called them dragons. Horrible. Kiss a few dragons until you find your princess.

Mel: Anyway, on that note.

Suzie : That's enough from us. But yeah, if you guys have any thoughts about this complaints, the complaint center is open.

Mel: Hello, it's open and we want to hear about it.

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