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Hey, babe.

Mel: Hello, darling. How are you?

Suzie : I'm excellent. How are you?

Mel: I'm fabulous.

Suzie : I just wanted to stare at you for a second. I know you're fabulous. Mel and I have been having a wonderful time in gray old London town.

Mel: There's always gray. This is England, apparently.

Suzie : I was just with my friend last night. From England. From London. From Manchester.

Mel: That's not London. That's even grayer for Manchester.

Suzie : Is it? It's even grayer because he was like.

He was like, you missed a great. He was. He talked like this, but I can't do the accent. But he was like, you missed a really great summer. Apparently it was like really hot here in the summer and then someone turned the tap on and it was cold now and rainy.

So that's unfortunate that I missed it.

Mel: It's very unpredictable and we talk about the weather incessantly in this country.

Suzie : Yeah, of course. Because it's always a topic, even though it's always the same.

Mel: Exactly. Why? Why is that? But it's less depressing than everything else, so maybe we'll just stick with the weather.

Suzie : Well, we have a fun little EPI today.

Mel: We do.

Suzie : Because we have a few write ins.

Mel: We do.

Suzie : And we want to talk about them because they're a little bit. A little bit scandalous. Scandalo show. So you ready for it?

Mel: I am.

Suzie : Okay. I'll start with the first. Darling, you go with the second.

Mel: Okay.

Suzie : Sound good?

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie : So this listener writes,

After 22 years of marriage, I've found out that my Husband has a five year old child.

The affair ended when the baby was born. But he's been secretly supporting this son for years.

I'm furious and I want him out, but he says it will ruin him financially and I need to think about our kids feelings too.

What should I do?

Mel: Wow, that's ****** up. Well, I think it's more common than we think.

Suzie : The secret love childs.

Mel: Yeah. I know a couple of people who either had siblings, they found out later in life or stuff like that.

Suzie : Oh, the siblings later in life.

Mel: Yeah. So you know, secret love child. Oh my gosh.

I mean it's awful.

But for the wife,

for the other woman, to be honest,

it's an awful situation.

Mostly for the wife. Cause she, you know, she didn't do anything wrong,

but the child hasn't done anything wrong.

The child, the children are ultimately absolutely innocent in this and they, you know, the child's here now and it needs a life. Yeah. But I completely understand as a mother myself that she would want to protect her own children 100%.

I mean, 100%. She'd feel like that mama bear all the way.

Suzie : But then to protect her own children. But then you're losing the financials like. Cause he would, you know, like.

Mel: Absolutely.

Suzie : Divorce was expensive and all these other things.

Mel: Yes. I mean, Yeah, I mean very, very difficult situation. Very difficult. Because I mean that's the problem with divorce.

Suzie : Like he's lied to her for probably longer than five years because he's been having this affair for at least five years. She was pregnant. So actually five years and nine months.

Mel: Let'S say probably 10.

Suzie : Let's say it was one. Let's say it was, it was a one time thing.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie : No, that's horrible. Like apparently the affair ended when the baby was born. So like.

Mel: Well, he says that.

Suzie : Well, right, he's saying that he obviously is still in contact with her.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie : Because she's financially being supported.

Mel: Exactly. I mean that I would.

Suzie : Can you get over that lie? Like that's a bigger lie than the actual affair. That's even, that's.

Mel: I wouldn't be able to.

Suzie : Let me ask you something.

Mel: Go on then.

Suzie : Would you be more upset if this guy, if you found out this guy had a child from an affair and wasn't supporting that child,

but he did know about it.

So if he had an affair,

he had a child,

he knew about the child but he wasn't supporting it,

would you be more or less upset?

Mel: Well, it's a good question. I actually know somebody was in that situation and that Actually did affect them.

Suzie : They were in the situation.

Mel: Well, he had a child before, so not out of wedlock. It wasn't like a secret love child in the sense he cheated on his wife,

but he had a child before when he was young and he knew about the child and he didn't support the child. And it affected his wife. Cause she's like, well, what kind of man are you?

Yeah,

I mean, this is obviously a different situation. I don't know. I mean, I think the irony is I'd probably feel bad both ways. Because you have a child, the child needs to have a life.

But my children are gonna be more important to me because I wanna protect my children. I don't know if I wanna be with him.

Suzie : No, you don't wanna be with him.

Mel: You might have to find some kind of arrangement. But I mean, that is the problem. That is why I keep going on about cheating and divorce.

It is so difficult and so heartbreaking to divorce somebody.

It is financially so detrimental. However much, however much money. Does that make sense? You have,

you know,

certainly if you're in a sort of medium income bracket, it's devastating because you gotta have two places to live in.

And even if they're smaller, well, we see the prices.

Suzie : Well, divorce is for rich people.

Mel: It is, but you have to be really exceptionally rich because you're still cutting everything down the middle. You know, you live in a giant house. Well, that's a smaller two giant houses.

Do you know what I mean? I mean,

and it's also just devastating for the children. I mean, we're not even talking about the children of the first marriage finding out, right?

Suzie : Because then they have a secret sibling.

Mel: Because then there's the complication that that's their sibling and they need to have a relationship with that sibling,

you know, and that's a very kind of strong,

secure mother of the first set of kids who's like, okay, they need to have a relationship, you know, because it's their sibling.

It's very, very tough. Very tough.

Suzie : Do they need a relationship with that sibling or they just need to know that sibling exists?

Mel: Well, I think that's up to them. I think it really is up to them because I, I them who are.

Suzie : The parents of the children, no, the.

Mel: Children of the first marriage. I think it is incredibly difficult. But yeah, I think they need to know.

It's very hard, really hard. I mean, imagine you find out you have a kid, you know, you have a kid, sorry, you have sibling years and years and years and years later.

And I, you know, I know situations where this happened, and it's heartbreaking. It's awful because you don't know how you're supposed to feel. Who's the loyalty to.

Is the loyalty to your parent who's lied or to your sibling? And your siblings are your closest blood connections. I mean, I know this would be a half sibling, but,

you know,

it's not their fault. They haven't done anything.

I think it's very, very difficult. And obviously, ultimately,

it depends on those kids. It's up to them.

And it depends. It also probably depends when the other second. The other sibling comes along, like, if. How much older they are and all that,

you know, so it's. It's extremely tricky. Yeah.

Suzie : What I mean, like, there's a part of cheating where it's like.

I mean,

this is so tough.

You're gonna. So there's no right way to do this. The right thing to do is not cheat.

Mel: But you've cheated.

Suzie : You have a child now.

Mel: Absolutely.

Suzie : And I would be. I would be so devastated to know if my partner or husband cheated, has a child, knew about it, did not support it, Was financially.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie : Like, abandoned it.

Mel: Well, because it says a lot about them, particularly.

Suzie : Well, exactly.

Mel: It says a lot about them. And it also says they're pretty weak. Because at the end of the day, I think you've made a huge mistake,

you know, whether it's a man or a woman in the situation. But obviously it's different if it's a man.

They're not physically holding the. Have. They don't physically have the children, which is why they can keep them secret.

But difficult, you know, if you're walking around with a giant bump, that's not easy. Not easy. But,

you know, he's created this mess.

And he should be a cat. He should take it on,

you know, that it's his mess. And quite frankly, with the first wife, it's also his mess. He should sort that out. But I know that's not the way life goes.

And what happens in these situations generally is the man kind of doubles down and will get divorced and want to protect everything he has, because then he's kind of getting like a third party,

and it'll just be a big fight all round. And in these situations, that's the problem with divorce is money is not an emotional thing. Right. But it becomes an emotional thing.

It becomes a weapon.

And that isn't helpful to anybody. Cause everyone needs it.

So that is a big problem. Like, the first wife is gonna use it as a weapon to punish him. And Also to make sure her children are protected. And the, the second, the wife, although she's the chi cheateri ree, cheaty, cheater, cheater.

Any person,

she's now got a child, and so she goes into also mama bear mode. And she needs to protect this child and make sure this child has money.

So ultimately,

he's in a bit of a pickle, this guy.

Suzie : Oh, not a pickle. Well, I mean, what would your advice to her be? Should she leave or should she stay?

Mel: Um, I don't think I'd, I'd. Well, I'd tell her to go and see a ****** good lawyer.

Suzie : Yeah. And definitely a good therapist.

Mel: Um, go and see a lawyer.

See what you can figure out.

I, I,

I would definitely see the lawyer first because I think she needs to protect herself and her children. And, and this is so emotional. You don't know who's gonna do what not.

And people behave very irrationally in these situations, and people say things, and then you can never take them back. Yeah. So I would kind of figure out quickly what your rights are, your situation is, what you can do,

and as much as you can, although this is a very easy thing to say, is be as rational as you can in the situation.

I mean, staying with him,

you know, that's pretty hard.

Suzie : No, I mean, there.

Mel: Well, maybe she can. Maybe she can. I don't know.

Yeah, I mean, it's. But that, again, is. And we've said this before,

that's absolutely up to her. And only she knows.

Only that woman knows if she can make this work, if she can go. Okay,

let's.

This has happened a bit like the Foo Fighters, right? The guy that. What are they called? The band.

Suzie : The Foo Fighters.

Mel: Yeah. What about them? The lead singer had a. He's been married for, like, 29 years, but last year he had a baby with a mistress.

Had a fourth child. A baby with a. Yeah.

And. But his wife has stayed with him.

Suzie : And, you know, sex, drugs and rock and roll, baby.

Mel: Yeah. And I'm sure there. And there's so much money at stake, and they've got three other children and whatever, and maybe they can find a way through it. I mean, and, you know,

I don't think I would, but maybe they can. And great for them.

But only this woman knows how she feels, and she's the only person who knows the history in her relationship, and she's the only one who knows if she can get through this.

However,

I think this is an incredibly difficult situation,

and I do think you should go and see, get some Help somehow and understand your position. And if you can't stay and you do want to divorce, which would be an utterly reasonable thing to want.

I mean, God, why would you want to stay?

I mean, that's the ultimate betrayal. Yeah.

To have had the child is bad enough, but then to have hidden it and supported it and so on and so forth,

I mean, that's a lot.

So she should really figure out what her position is.

Suzie : Yeah. I mean, she really just has to put her, like you're saying, like her first.

Mel: Oh, yeah.

Suzie : Like. Cause you have to be the rock now for your children.

And this is all, this is up to you now whether you want to. And I think she at least be separated,

you know,

get that like you need to be separated. But the reality, you don't have separation from him.

Mel: We don't know what's going on here, but the reality is obviously that he's saying he can't afford to get divorced.

Keep the first family, who obviously we don't know anything about whether that wife works. Keep the second family can't afford it. Well, he's gonna have to *******.

Suzie : ******* figure it out because you made the mistake.

Mel: You've created this and now you pay for it.

Suzie : Unfortunately.

Mel: Yeah, I mean, yeah,

I mean, that's the thing, you know, children,

women sort of bear the responsibility physically and emotionally and for the rest of their life it is their child.

And that's huge.

It really is a big thing.

And I'm not saying that women don't financially support children, but that's the way the law works. So the other side is the men deal with the finances. And this sounds like,

you know, have to be financially responsible for the child. This doesn't. We don't know enough details here, but if, if I would say this is a situation where this man has had a long term affair with this woman.

This isn't just a one night stand. No. Then, you know, he's been in contact.

Suzie : With her for five years. He knows the child, he supports the child.

Mel: Right. So he has a long term relationship. This isn't, you know, I've made a mistake one night. Right. And this has happened and then this.

Suzie : Is like financial dishonesty.

Mel: Everything he's done, he's done everything possible wrong.

Suzie : Yeah.

Mel: You know, he's had an emotional affair with another woman. He's had a ba. And it's the ultimate kick in the whatevers. Yeah. And I think incredibly difficult for the first wife to stay.

So. But I understand, you know, but there are certain realities and she's absolutely Right. Actually,

it's the first time I ever seen that somebody kind of thinking rationally like that she had to. To, like, think of the finances and think of her children. Because, you know,

if all the emotional stuff is there, it's another thing. If you layer on top a whole load of financial pressure, it's awful. And the, you know. You know, you can't,

as they say in England, get blood out of a stone,

you know, you can't.

Suzie : Interesting.

Mel: I've never heard that expression before.

Suzie : Yeah, I like all this English coming out of you now, though.

Mel: It's nice. So you. You can't squeeze something from nothing.

Suzie : Right.

Mel: It's not there. It's not there. Yeah. So she. They. She's gonna have to go and find out how.

How she can do it.

So get some advice would be my advice.

Suzie : Yes, very good, Mel. We're not lawyers or psychologists,

thank God.

So get professional help and stop listening to advice podcasts. No, I'm just kidding.

Thank you for your comment. We actually really appreciate it.

We also have another person write in as well.

Mel: So the other. Write in. And I'm just going to recap because it's quite a long.

Suzie : It was a lengthy, intense email.

Mel: It's a. It's an intense story.

Suzie : Well, there's a lot of extra bits that are very personal,

and we don't want to share this information loosely at all.

We want to be very respectful to this listener. But we did get his permission to share the story a bit.

So, Mel, why don't you go ahead and take it away from us?

Mel: So it's again, about a love child, and he was the love child. So his mother had an affair with a man of the cloth,

a clergyman.

And it was.

And this is, you know, many, many decades ago, and he was the product of that illicit love union. Wow. Do you like that? I do.

And the parents never carried on having illicit relationship for many, many years and then.

But never admitted to anyone he was the father. So he lived his entire life with not that kind of admission.

And that's a bit different. That's not financial, but that is incredibly painful.

And obviously things like that did happen in, you know,

however many 40, 50,

even 30 years ago, where there were things that just were not possible, you know, was not possible.

You know, even if we're talking about a religion where the religious man, leader, clergyman, whatever you want to call it, priest, Pope, Pope,

whatever,

can marry, you know, we're not necessarily in the Catholic religion where they can't, but it's still, you know, not something you can do if you're.

I think this guy was already married or had been married. Like, you're not supposed to be doing these things. Yeah. You're supposed to behave well.

And, you know, obviously that. Exactly. That was very difficult.

Suzie : When has that ever happened?

Mel: Yeah, exactly. But that. And was very difficult. But I mean, it's just this,

you know, it's one thing. We've talked ad nauseam. No, I'm joking. We've talked a lot about affairs.

Suzie : People are narcissists of us. Yes, absolutely.

Mel: We've talked a lot about affairs and cheating because it's the question that we're endlessly asked. People want to know. They want to know how you deal with it. And people just cheat because.

Because that's how the human beings are built. They just can't help themselves. And there's always a shiny new thing that they want to go for.

And so people cheat. And we've been accused of making light of it. And I would like to say we do not make light of it at all.

What we're actually saying in every single pod and every single clip is the reality is that it happens.

And it happens for a myriad of different reasons. It's not because somebody's Satan incarnate. It happens. Right.

No, but I mean, people get very emotional about when they react when they see a story about an affair and they just like, oh, my God, leaving the horrible, pleasant room.

And, you know, I feel the same. Like, you know,

we've talked about this. My dad had many, many affairs. And it's very painful for the family.

I mean, quite frankly, if I don't have another sibling out there, I'd be very shocked.

Suzie : Would you ever look into that? Like, I know 23 and me is not a thing anymore, but I'm sure there are other things that if you, like, put your DNA into a system, it's like, this is how many siblings you have.

Mel: Yeah, I have actually thought about just doing that because should we start on.

Suzie : A fair system, like a fair DNA thing?

Mel: If I.

Suzie : And not sell the data, obviously, if I.

Mel: If I don't have a half sibling out there, I'd be shocked. I'd be shocked. And many people have said it to.

Suzie : Me, well, it's so dangerous because when you do that, then the possibility of you sleeping with another. Oh, yeah, your sibling.

Mel: So that Netflix document. Yes, exactly.

Suzie : That happens. And then you're like, yeah, it ruins your life. It ruins your life.

Mel: Of course it does.

Suzie : Because there's a sin.

Mel: It's so up.

Suzie : I think we actually Did a pot on it when it first came out, that documentary. And it literally, like, it's a thing like, you get this weird knowing and attraction.

Mel: Right. It does happen.

Suzie : And so, yeah, you don't know why.

Mel: You'Re attracted to the person.

Suzie : You don't know why you're attracted. You have this, like, literal connection that you cannot explain. And so you think it's love, but it's actually. This is your sibling.

Mel: Yeah. Or your parent or something peculiar. Whoa. Oh, yeah, that's. That's happened too. Yeah. Oh.

Suzie : Because they've been like, up adoption.

Mel: Oh, my. But hopefully that's not my situation.

But I'm just saying it's very. I would be shocked if one day somebody doesn't turn up. The only good. The only thing is that my dad lived in all these different countries.

Suzie : Oh, that is a great thing.

Mel: Somewhere over there.

Suzie : Or definitely, like, few in Asia.

Mel: All over the world. Yeah. And he live in asia for like 25 years.

Suzie : Oh, my God.

Mel: So there's a high likelihood of that.

Suzie : Oh, fabulous. But, well, with this clergyman man. Nothing to do with this clergyman son. Sir, we are. We are sorry that this is your reality.

Mel: A listener of ours and I.

I read it and it's like, it's. I can't even imagine how painful that is because what then happens in. When this would have happened would have been so many years ago that I would assume that he wouldn't have had until later in life many conversations with people.

And then, of course, that makes you behave in a certain way. And it's very complicated.

And,

you know, I mean, it goes back to this thing of the kind of selfishness of the parents. Right. And. But then again,

you know, whether that's just people.

That's the point. Yeah. Is whether it's these people or the. The original story we were talking about,

about the man who's got. Had the other child.

He obviously didn't set out. Well, I certainly ****** hope not to have another child.

But things happen and,

you know, everyone should go back to biology and understand what happens.

Suzie : You know, Pregnancy.

Mel: Yeah. Sex seems to be.

Suzie : Goes into pregnancy.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie : Can you believe it?

Mel: Seems to be unaware of this fact. And it happens. It's only needing only to do it once. And it happens. Yeah.

Suzie : No, it is sad. I mean, like, when you have a parent, that's when you were lied to your whole life and you didn't realize that your dad was not your dad.

Like, that is crazy because sometimes you always feel it.

Mel: Yeah. And I don't think that was entirely the story here. It's a very nuanced, complicated story. But I think that does happen. And yeah, people often say I felt that I didn't fit in.

But I just think this idea that the parents put their love ahead of your child's love. Yeah. Or they're the child's kind of security. But maybe in a way they are protecting the child by.

Suzie : Not in this weird thing from what I think it's, it's not a new idea, but I've seen this quite a lot. Is like parents on Instagram, let's say, are being like,

no, yeah, we put our, we put our happiness first before the child's.

Do you know what I mean? Where they like go on trips and they do all these things and they have to make sure that they're. And I somewhat agree with this because it's like putting the mask on yourself before you're putting it on someone else.

Mel: Right.

Suzie : So it's like taking care of yourself so that you can take care of someone else in a better way.

Yeah, I think it's the wrong way to an extent.

Mel: It's the wrong way of saying it. Right. So I think that.

And yeah, I've seen that before because it's sort of the reaction to people giving up their life and only being. Talking about the child.

I'm sorry, but when you have children,

they come first.

They are number one. Otherwise don't have children.

I understand that children happen by mistake, but put them first if you have them. That is absolutely the case.

However,

by having children does not mean you then all of a sudden have no life. There are obviously periods of time when it's very difficult to,

you know, go out partying until 2am if you've got a five year old, you're not probably going to do that.

But of course you have a life, of course you have friends, of course you have interests. Of course you don't suddenly just stop being a person of interest,

which I think probably a lot of young people think.

And maybe that's, that's what they're saying. Like, I'm sorry, if you have kids,

you.

They cost money so you're not traveling to Thailand or whatever you're doing. Right. And oh yeah, they can just stay at home or stay. I think that there's a line like be a little bit balanced.

Some people go too much one way and too much.

Suzie : Well, there's this weird little phenomenon and we're kind of getting off topic, but I wanted to ask you this. So like if I feel like.

And maybe it's like Millennial parents, that's what it is.

And they are bringing their children to concerts and like, you know, even like putting the headphones on, but like still bringing their children to like late night festivals and **** like this so that they can still go to the festival.

Bringing them to nice restaurants and like places where like maybe you shouldn't have your kid here or like maybe this isn't the place for it. And I'm sorry, but like if that means you also have to stay home or just get, try to get a babysitter, like that's what you have to do.

Like don't bring them.

They're not, they shouldn't be allowed. This is so controversial. I feel like. But like children should not be allowed in every single public space.

Mel: Said by a true nonchalant. Yes, but look, I just think just like Dot.

No, I mean the thing is, and that's like, you know, like people who say, oh, children shouldn't be allowed on business, you know, business class, on airplanes. Well, if you bought the ******* ticket, you can take the job wherever you like.

However,

something like a concert, I mean, use your common sense. Use your common sense. For crying out *******. Excuse my language. Loud. Like if you are going to a concert, which is a loud and not good for a child's ears and that you have to put the things on the ears and everyone's dancing around and it's loud and it's late and they're going to get cranky.

I mean, use your common sense, you know, I think it's more about that like, come on. I mean, I've seen kids also at like sports, sporting events when they're like really young and it's really loud and you're just like.

Or people that. People with children at marches. I mean like, what are you doing? Yeah, you know, what are you doing?

Suzie : And then these like even like,

like the ballet, the symphony, like, I understand, like you want to culture your children, but if the child, if the child is so young that they're gonna cry or they're gonna be noisy or anything like that, it's like you're ruining the experience for the adults who paid for the tickets.

Mel: You have to use your common sense. I mean, look in terms of restaurants.

We took our kids to restaurants from a very young age and probably quite nice restaurants. Not very young, but we sort of gradually. And I certainly wouldn't have taken a two year old to just because it's ridiculous waste of money to like a really expensive restaurant.

But I mean, there is the school of thought, like My kids went out with us and went to restaurants that they're actually pretty very well behaved because they knew how to behave in situations like that.

But yeah, just use your common sense. Kids get tired and they start, right.

Suzie : You have to also think of the kid if they're gonna be ******* bored.

Mel: And like when they're tired and bored, and particularly when they're really overstimulated, they start to cry and wriggle around and, you know, it's not fun for them.

Suzie : Yeah, they're antsy.

Mel: So use your common sense. And I'm sorry, but if you're going to events and they're with you, they have to come first. I mean, I cannot tell you the amount of child activities I've done.

You know, I've been to every theme park,

theater, blah, blah, blah, everything.

It's not about you.

If you want to go and do an adult thing. Yeah, it's probably better to do that.

Either each of you go individually, maybe go with friends, you know, which we did a certain amount of. Cause then that's the sort of thing.

Suzie : Cause you still need a break. You still have to go out, which I get like parents, like. Like it's gonna be. I mean, like, who knows if I'm gonna ever have kids, but like, if.

Mel: I ever do, it's just.

Suzie : It does change your life. And I'm sorry, it does.

Mel: It's common sense. But that's going back to these love children, you know,

there are consequences for everything you do in life.

And having an illicit affair, having an affair that is,

you know, going to end in something like this, which will.

I mean, it's gonna be just so destructive. And even for that child,

because that child has to live with the burden of knowing what they've done to the family when they're older and they didn't do anything, they just were born.

And that's not very fair, but, you know, it happens. And the reality is if the child's here, you gotta kind of deal with the aftermath. But I fully understand any mother wanting to protect her children.

I mean, the second story,

you know, this happened in a time when it was very difficult to have certain kinds of relationships and get married and people were so judgmental and. And all of that.

But you know, again,

you had the relationship. You have to take the responsibility for that,

you know, and if you don't.

Suzie : Want the responsibility, don't have kids.

Mel: Yeah, but again, sometimes you can't control that. No, I know. It's.

Suzie : That's what's ****** up. So don't have sex.

Mel: Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's that.

Suzie : Isn't that horrifying? That's a horrifying thought.

Mel: Abstinence. I mean,

it doesn't work for most people. No, that's the problem.

And who knows with this, you know, guy, did this woman also the first story, did the mistress sort of trap him by having the child?

You know, let's face it, that's happened a bajillion times.

Suzie : Of course.

Mel: Because it's the only way of holding onto him. What if he did something like said, I'm going and then she. What if she just always wanted to get pregnant and now he's never going anywhere?

Yeah,

I mean,

I really empathize. I really do. Because it's a sort of damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. But you know, ultimately you didn't create this mess. This is to the first woman in the first story.

The first wife is. You didn't create the mess. And it's. You need to protect yourself and your kids.

But I fully understand the realities of chopping all this money. You know, how do you support everyone?

So maybe get some,

I mean, some proper,

sensible advice.

Lovely. Yes.

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We'll see you next time.

Suzie : Bye bye. 3, 2, 1.