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Mel: Hey, babes. Hello, darling.

Suzie: Hey, gorgeous.

Mel: Hello, gorgeous.

Suzie: Gorgeous girl. She's wearing red, everyone, for the holiday season.

Mel: Very festive. I'm not, actually. I just like wearing red.

Suzie: She's a blonde. She looks great in red. It's fine.

Mel: It's red.

Suzie: Yes, you do. I love it. I do, too. What if we coordinate one day?

Mel: Oh, yes, I think we should. And yeah, wear a little.

Suzie: Little red.

Mel: Little.

Suzie: Like, I'll wear a little red scarf. You'll wear a little red shirt. You know what I mean?

Mel: Very good.

Suzie: Very sexy.

Mel: I'm with you. Excellent.

Suzie: We're gonna do a quick little EPI today. I found this hilarious article.

Mel: Yes.

Suzie: That I need to get our audience's opinion on because I actually have seen, like, I follow some of these, like, fashion, like, publications on Instagram and stuff like that. I think it was on who, what, where, and it's about, like, it's.

It's following these. I think they're like theater stars. Like, they're Broadway stars.

Broadway actors. And it's a gay guy and a woman and they got married.

Mel: I think they're on TikTok as well. Has he got dark hair and she's, like, blonde?

Suzie: She's blonde, yeah.

Mel: Short hair.

Suzie: I think so.

Mel: Yeah. Yeah.

Suzie: I forget their names, but. So I found this article, and it's from a place called Dazed magazine, and it's called Lavender Marriages. Lavender marriages are. Gay guy with a straight woman.

Why? Young people are now pining for platonic love. And they say, as the world of dating becomes more bleak and the loneliness crisis continues, could gay men and straight women shacking up be the answer?

Mel: Well, I mean.

Suzie: What do you think?

Mel: I mean, look, if it works for you, I mean, I do get it because I think a lot of people are like, you know, you get married, the sex doesn't last, so what's the point of that?

Just go and have lots of partners and do the sex outside of it.

And it's kind of the loneliness aspect of not having a partner or the kind of companionship thing. And if you. You don't need to. To have sex with somebody to have that bit.

Right.

Suzie: Here's my weird little thing about it. Why are you getting married?

Mel: That. That would. That would be. Is an excellent point. Yeah. And why can't.

Suzie: You don't have to get married. You can just live together.

Mel: Yeah. I mean, if it's like a financial thing, I could completely understand. Like, you know, you want to buy a house and you can't afford it, and you've got this great friend.

Suzie: I mean, you can get married too.

Mel: That's what I mean.

Suzie: Yeah, but.

Mel: And you're. And one of you is gay, so that you're never gonna have the complications of an intimate relationship, then. Okay, that. That sort of maybe makes some sense.

Suzie: I can understand that. Like, obviously, like, your marriage of choice. But it is very interesting to me. It's like, for sure, if you want a platonic relationship with someone you just, like, really respect, you're so sick of dating.

You're so sick of trying to find a man in this ******* economy with, like, you know, who, like, maybe you just haven't found one that respects you. You haven't found someone compatible, and you have this amazing gay guy friend and you're like, oh, my God, like, not.

I'm not, like, in love with him. Like, I want to **** him, but I'm in love with him as a person. And like, yes, like, that's amazing.

But, like, why don't we just live together and then, like, be happy like that? And then possibly if you're. If you do find a straight guy who you want to **** and is really great and you want to date, then you don't have to get a divorce from your gay husband.

Mel: Are they marrying because they think they actually want children? Not obviously. They might have.

Suzie: I have no idea.

Mel: But they want children. And so obviously you only need to do it once. You know, they don't have to keep doing it.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: I mean, is that the point of it?

Suzie: I truly have no idea. I wish. I wish I knew more about this topic. I think it's a very new, like, idea for me because I'm just like, hold on. Like, you're actually gonna marry someone you could never have sex with?

Mel: It's like, what's the point?

Suzie: What's the. What's kind of the point? You know? Like, you're literally never gonna have sex with this person, like, this gay man is not attracted this, like the woman could be attracted to the gay man.

Right? The gay man is not gonna **** the woman.

Mel: Yeah, I mean, I think.

So there are sort of two sides to the argument is that I think people think, you know, what the statistics are, something like 56 or something around that number. Percentage of marriages in the US say, end up in divorce.

So marriage is very hard to start with.

Suzie: Right.

Mel: So if you take the thing that is the difficult bit out of it, which is basically sex, and therefore are you likely to say married for longer, but then why are you getting married?

Suzie: Yeah. So here's what this article says.

Mel: Okay.

Suzie: They're like, what's the point of this? We want to ask. And they say not to be too bleak, but a large proportion of relationships eventually become drained of sex anyways.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: And then even if it takes decades to happen, like, it might not be an inevitability, but it's likely. Trajectory.

Some studies show that romantic love as a chemical feeling is doomed to fade after a certain length of time. And it's common for marriages turn into something like sibling relationships, even when both parties are straight.

So maybe you're just skipping a few years. I still don't really understand it.

Like, like you still need to, you're, you're, you're still sexual beings, obviously. Like, especially. Maybe not especially, but like, especially the gay guys. Yeah, gay men. The gay men I know love sex.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: Like, it's okay, but obviously, like, women go in ebbs and flows of, like, their sexual desires and, like, you know, wanting to have sex.

But I just think it would be, you know, like, you're, are you sleeping in the same bed at night? I want to know the logistics of it. Like, it's really boggling my mind a bit.

Mel: Is it like, mostly for companionship, so that, you know, you have somebody to go on vacation with and somebody to do stuff with and all that?

Suzie: See, that's what I don't understand. Just be roommates then.

Mel: Yeah. But maybe if you want to kind of financially do something together or buy a house or, I don't know, Tax. I, I don't know. Taxes? Yeah, maybe.

Suzie: Honestly, in the US Maybe it's taxes. No, your taxes go down if you get married.

Mel: It's a good question. Depends on the state, probably. I don't know. I mean, I think, well, you can obviously do things with that. Like, if you have income, you can split your income and all this sort of stuff.

I, I, I don't think it's that I think it's just everyone is getting a bit depressed about the whole dating thing.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: Which I don't know if it's like, we're all just overthinking it and it.

Suzie: Really is 100 and we're all sick of the apps and we're just like, I can't stand this anymore. I hate dating losers. Or I just can't find someone who I'm connecting with.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: And you're like, it, why can't I just marry my friend? Like, I actually have said that. And I mean, it is because, like, she's an immigrant and I would just marry her to, like, for her to be able to live in this country legally.

But I'm like, yeah, why wouldn't I just marry her? And we would have a great ******* life together and we would sleep with other people. It would be very platonic.

Mel: And then you'd have friendship and you'd have somebody supports you. Because, I mean, I think that's the big thing is that people don't misunderstand about marriage. If you're in a good marriage is the support system, right.

Is somebody has your back.

So life is tough, life is hard. And there are moments when it's. If you're on your own, it's difficult.

And it's nice to have somebody, you know, and the older you get, so the sort of further away you get from those sort of young, kind of university age, the more people start to couple off for sure.

The more, like on Saturday night, oh, I'm not going out on Friday, you know, that kind of thing. So. So the more alone you get, right. If you don't have a partner or whatever.

And. And I think it just gets more and more prevalent. And I think there's this. I saw this thing today. This guy was going on about how he just, he just like, I cannot be bothered with dating.

That's it, I'm done. And he was like a nice looking guy. I was like, I can't be bothered to have another conversation about what do you do for work?

He's like, I can't. I just can't do it. I cannot do it. I don't want to do it. And you're like, well, that's pretty negative then. And okay, I get it.

But then you're not gonna meet anyone.

Suzie: Well, like.

Mel: And I.

Suzie: So I think this is about, like, you don't want to have kids, Right. Like, you get married to your gay husband and you don't want, you don't need kids. Yeah.

Mel: But you don't want kids. Because I do know people where they've got married.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: Because. But it's normally, she's lesbian and he's gay and they both want kids and they've got married to raise.

Suzie: She's lesbian and he's gay.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: Okay.

Mel: And they've got married to raise the children. So they've done the deed. Probably not with sex. Okay. But had done the deed. Turkey based deed. Had the children, but they like each other.

They stay married, but then they have other things on the side. Right. But they marry for the children. Right. Because they like each other for finance.

Suzie: No, for sure.

Mel: So I think it could be different things, but I just think it's all a bit sort of sad really. It's a bit depressing, isn't it? To me it's like, okay, I can't be bothered anymore.

The whole thing is useless. We're doomed.

So we'll do this.

Suzie: No, I. And so like what they said earlier, obviously it's like, okay, well, yeah, obviously the sexual attraction is never gonna. It's not gonna be there forever like it was when you first met.

But in my idea of it, and maybe this is super old fashioned of me, but you'd think that you'd want to start with some kind of sexual attraction come first before you even get into a marriage and not just like Skip to the 30 year mark and just be ******* roommates and friends with them.

Like that's kind of why I broke up with my last boyfriend, is because we were acting as roommates at one point and I was so sick of it. I was like, what am I doing doing this?

I want someone who I can like crazy and be super passionate about and like absolutely love.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: And if you don't have that, what's the point? What is the point of a marriage is all I'm saying. It's like also because marriage is such like a, you know, old fashioned idea even.

Right? So it's like, why are you, why are we trying to change marriage into something? Why, why even get married at all? Well, if it's not maybe for tax reasons or whatever, but like why even do that?

Mel: Yeah. No, and I think the other thing is people talk about this thing about sex becoming less. I think sex changes and it probably will always inevitably be less than at the beginning.

Because when you first meet somebody, it's all very exciting and you do do that thing where you block the world out, don't you? When you first meet somebody? All the kind of normal **** that interferes with your life somehow.

You block it out because you're into this person so much. And then the more you're with that person, and let's say you move in and it all becomes kind of normal.

Well, then normal things happens. Like, you know, the bills come through the door and you know, you have to pay the mortgage or the rent or, you know, and you have to buy, you have to go to the supermarket and all these boring things.

And so real life creeps in. Right. And the more real life creeps in, the less time you have. And then of course, the focus away from maybe hyper, passionate sex goes away.

Yeah, but it's only because of that. It's only normal because at the beginning you're so. You're in a bubble, right. And then the bubble has to burst because you have to live in the world.

We all have to pay the mortgage, all the rent. Well, most of us do. And so the light life has to come in and life creates stress and life takes up time and blah, blah, blah, blah.

But it doesn't mean you don't still want or desire or love each other. Maybe it changes. But like you said. Yeah. Why would you want to skip the fun bit at the beginning?

Suzie: That's the only bit that Matt like a big deal to me.

Mel: And the bit that got you kind of together and it's not. And it will be different as you go along, but it keeps you together. That same. That's where you were.

Right.

Suzie: Yeah, exactly. And like maybe. Maybe for whatever reason, it's like a deeper connection than even I can comprehend. Right. Like that's a possibility where it's like they don't even need sex because the compatibility and like the friendship is so strong that they're like, we just want to spend our lives together because like we know that.

We're just like, that's what's going to hold this together.

But at the same time I'm like, what's. Like there's what the base of that is just friendship.

Mel: Exactly. And, and so what's the point? And you know, also people.

What if like somebody comes along? So let's say that. Let's say it's a. It's a straight woman and a gay man. I think, is that what we said? What if the straight.

The gay man meets the love of his life? Yeah. And what if the, the. The. The straight woman meets? Then. Then what happens?

Suzie: Then like you get divorced, I'm assuming.

Mel: Then what's the point of it?

Suzie: Or you just get into a polyamorous relationship. Yeah, but you're all Just each other.

Mel: Yeah, but that. I mean, that seems like you've added. It gets fun. Yeah. You've added a real layer of complication there. Yeah.

Suzie: I mean it, honest. Obviously, I would way rather be married to a hot, gay, incredible husband than a ****** straight guy who like takes advantage of me and doesn't respect or want me.

Mel: Sure.

Suzie: But that would never. I would most like. I'm hoping I would never let that happen. Anyways.

Mel: Yeah. So it's like if a man. If you're in a relationship with a man and a man doesn't desire you, this. These are one. It's a huge problem. Yeah. I mean, you know, my.

In my life, my husband says to me every day how much he loves me. He tells me every day I'm a princess. He does. You're princess queen. I am. And he tells me every day that I'm his world, I'm his life, I'm.

He loves me and he couldn't. He couldn't be without me.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: And I'm pretty sure he's telling the truth.

Suzie: Guys. You guys don't know Mel, but you kind of do. She is the world. She's the world. She is.

Mel: So to feel, that is a big thing to feel. And obviously I give that love back to him. But to be, in a way.

Suzie: No, I'm just kidding.

Mel: But to feel that love makes you feel pretty great. And it makes you feel that you can. The world's like all these horrible, nasty dragons and people out there, but I'm okay, because together we can do it.

And that sounds a bit.

The violins out and whatever, but I mean, that's what it should feel like. Am I telling you that in 25 years, every single nanosecond has been amazing? Of course not.

Has he annoyed me? Yes. Have I annoyed him? Yes, on a daily basis. But I love him and he loves me and he tells me all the time. It's very sweet.

He tells me all the time I'm beautiful and blah, blah, blah. And, you know, I don't give a **** what anybody else thinks because that's all that matters to me.

Right. But that feeling is why you're in a relationship. So all the difficult stuff, you're here for this stuff, which is most of the time for me.

It makes you invincible. It's very important. So if you don't start with that or you don't feel that, that's where a lot of problems come.

Suzie: Well, I just feel like there's nothing better than, like, you know, the simple things of, like, a really great. Amazing sexual, like healthy sexual relationship. Like waking up with them and like a Sunday morning having amazing, slow, sexy, sexy sex on a Sunday morning.

My favorite. Like just like not like not having to try about anything. It's just like there's nothing else in the world but you guys. You know what I mean?

Mel: They love you and they decide they want you and you the same.

Suzie: Yes. It's like that sexual desire is so here. You're literally taking that even out of the equation. Like that's, it's just like it bothers me. I'm like, I'm like. I just don't want these straight women to feel like this is the answer to all these horrible men out there.

It's like they're not all horrible men. Like, yeah, maybe we're just giving up too quickly. Maybe that's not even me to say. I just like, they're not all horrible men.

Let's just open our minds a little bit to, you know, a possibility of someone who maybe you're not traditionally attracted to. But it doesn't have to be a gay man.

Mel: Well, exactly. I mean, look, there's plenty of horrible men, but there are plenty of horrible women. I mean, let's be frank.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: Let's be frank. It's not like one sided. And I think also this thing and obviously we've talked about and lots of people are talking about is the fact that women have particularly have these ideas that they all have to.

The guy has to make like a million dollars a year and he has to drive this car. Drive by accident. Yeah. And he has to be. Look, whoever we can think is Jon Hamm.

Right? Jon Hamm, Celebrity craft. Is he your brother?

Suzie: He's one of them. Yeah.

Mel: Okay. Is he married?

Suzie: Huge ****.

Mel: But you, every time you say his name, you say huge ****. Because you have no proof of what you do. I do.

Suzie: I have proof only.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: Look up gray sweatpants. John Hampton, gray sweatpants. But I'm assuming he has a beautiful wife.

Mel: Yeah. Probably does. Now I've completely. I'm thinking about sweatpants. But what was I talking about?

Suzie: These women all want a lot of things.

Mel: Yeah. It's like this. How about, there's lots of really nice men out there that don't make a million dollars that could treat you really well. Do they really need to make a million dollars?

You could do quite well with less than a million.

Suzie: It's hard to say. It's hard to.

Mel: Maybe you could make some money too and then you'd be fine.

Suzie: Us making money now. Women in tech.

Mel: Exactly. It's like how there's so many wonderful people maybe just not have such a totally idea of exactly what you want. And maybe especially if you're young, you gotta start somewhere and go somewhere.

You know, there aren't too many girls who are meeting, you know, the guy who set up Snapchat or the guy who, I'm sorry to say that, you know. Or female versions.

Suzie: Well, I think there is something to say about, like, there's. It's much nicer to find someone you actually like and are attracted to than just someone who has money. I think that's.

Mel: Oh, my God.

Suzie: Still, that's a lot of. I don't think all women are looking for super rich. They have to be hot. They have to have all these things. I actually don't think that's true.

I think they just want to feel like they're taken care of and loved.

Mel: Yeah, yeah. At the end of the day, maybe that. Yeah, maybe that's. Yeah, that's a fair point. But I do think that women. I think men also have ridiculous expectations.

They all think they're going to be going out with.

Can we think of somebody who.

Suzie: Miranda Kerr.

Mel: Miranda. Oh, right.

Suzie: Hot Australian babe, married to Snapchat guy.

Mel: Yes, exactly. That's very, very good.

Suzie: Sorry. Got it.

Mel: And I'm sorry, we don't, obviously. Well, I certainly don't look like Miranda Kerr, so there are a lot of very attractive women.

They don't all have to be perfect. Like, you're not perfect. Maybe open your eyes, broaden your horizons and, you know.

But, I mean, but I mean, that is part of the app thing, isn't it? That it. It makes you kind of zoom in so much to all these things that actually are very superficial.

And so you've zoomed into this **** before you've met them, which I think creates a lot of the problems. Whereas when we traditionally met in. In real life, and you'll, you know, we've talked about this many times.

When you meet somebody in real life, they can actually often not be traditionally what you find attractive or traditionally what you have in your head. You should have this job and they should be doing this, or they should, or whatever it is.

You just find them very appealing, very attractive. They're nice to talk to you. Nice to talk to you. Sorry. And there's a chemistry. Right. And often you don't even know what it is.

But you need to meet in real life. People need to go 100.

Suzie: And that's why I've gotten off the apps.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: I just cannot stand it. And I think that's not only how a lot of women feel, but how a lot of men feel now, too, right? Where it's just like, I'm not.

It's not like I'm not meeting anyone good on there. Like, I'm sure all these guys are great. It's just the fact that, like, I'm just like, I don't want to.

I don't want to ******* talk and talk and text and then maybe meet and they're maybe okay. It's like if you meet them right then and there, or you get set up by a friend who knows you and knows the other person, it just feels a lot nicer, like a.

Like a. Oh, this. This kind of give me a little more butterflies. Then it's like these apps feel. Make it feel so transactional. I'm just like, this is what I know about you, this is what you know about me.

Let's kind of see who else we know. Let's, you know, see what other things we have in common. It's just. It's very unorganic.

Mel: Yeah. It's very algorithmic. I mean, I can think of a story. I think I was telling you this recently. A friend of mine, Her. A friend of hers who's male and he's just got divorced, went on the apps to try and meet somebody.

He's like, really nice guy, and, you know, he's got some money, but he's a very nice guy. And he just. He just wants to meet a woman and just kind of go out and he's got no set idea.

He just kind of wants to get over his divorce, and maybe he'll meet somebody who he'll have a life with, and maybe he'll just go out and have a night, fun.

I mean, that's pretty much it. And I think that's pretty healthy attitude. And he meets up with this woman or whatever connects. What's the saying? Connects.

Suzie: Connects.

Mel: Swipe smash. That's the word with this woman.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: And she's younger than him, sort of in her, I think, mid-40s, and they literally have dinner, and he's like, she just became a psycho. They start talking, and she immediately starts talking about children and wanting children.

And he's like, I don't want children. I have children, grown children. And he was quite nice about it. And she apparently just went nuclear on him and was just like, how dare you waste my time?

And you should have told me. And I've come here and I've got ready and.

And he's just like, whoa, I was just coming for dinner, you know, like, just like, holy ****, relax. And I don't. I assume on his profile, I mean, I don't know, but it was just so bizarre.

And I think that's the bizarre thing about apps is that, you know, you would meet somebody in a normal setting, you'd have a conversation, you'd have a couple of dates.

If you did want children, he'd. Then you'd feel, okay, maybe we're not kind of for each other, but you don't meet somebody in the first dinner and go off on them.

Suzie: No.

Mel: You know, you just. You maybe have that dinner and you think they're very nice, but they're not for me. But do them the courtesy, if they're a nice person of having dinner and not being a psycho.

Yeah. And I think it creates all sorts of problems, that's for sure. Yeah. In that. In that sense. But, yeah, there you go.

It creates psychos, I think.

Suzie: No, it does. And, like, even if you are on the apps, whenever I see. If I see someone, like when I was. When I was on. When I was on them, like, if someone has too much information on it, then I just don't even want to swipe on them either.

Like, if it's too much information on, like, who they are, what they want, what their astrology signs are, it's like, this is too much information. I don't want to know all this about you.

It also just seems like you're trying too hard. Yeah, I'm like, show me your name. Show me your age. You know, maybe what you do for work or like, you know, maybe one more piece of information, what you like to do for fun or, like, something interesting about you, and that's it.

I don't need to know all of these things.

Mel: Yeah, no, I don't need to know that. You know, you like hiking and you need a partner who hikes with you every Sunday or golfs or all this ****. No, this is the stuff that you work out if you stay together.

Like, chill, chill.

I want to know that you're kind of a nice, interesting person. I'm attracted to you, but obviously that's different for everyone, that maybe. Maybe you want to know their profession because, you know, maybe if you're a corporate lawyer, you can't see yourself dating a.

I don't know, a landscape gardener. I don't know, maybe if you want.

Suzie: A compatible person is the answer than a lavender marriage where you're like, well, I absolutely love makeup and getting Ready and hanging out and going for nice dinners. And I know I have that with all of my amazing gay guy friends.

So maybe the answer is just to marry one of those.

Mel: Yeah. Because your girlfriends that you do it with, they'll eventually meet a guy and then they kind of ditch you and spend more time with the guy. Whereas your gay husband.

But then what. What happens when he goes and sees his guy? Well, yeah, I mean, you just maybe comes back again.

Suzie: You send him off. You send.

Mel: You give him a. Thursdays and Sundays.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: And I'll see you the rest of the time.

Suzie: And they get a date night. I'm sure there's so much fun. Honestly, maybe I am into this lavender marriage thing.

Mel: Do you think? I mean, gay men generally are hilarious.

Suzie: So ******* funny.

Mel: And also, I think in a fun way, gay men are.

They're like outrageous. And I really like that because they can say stuff that no one else can say, particularly straight people cannot say. And I actually really like that. I think it's absolutely hilarious.

Suzie: They talk about sex way more.

Mel: Oh, my God, yes.

Suzie: They're way more tuned with other people and they ******* hate other people way more. It's just way more fun to be around them.

Mel: The sort of bitchiness is very funny.

Suzie: So refreshing.

Mel: It's very amusing. I think the chatting. The level of chatting is great.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: She will never get with a straight man. So maybe. Maybe we're selling it so well. Not to me. Obviously not to you.

Suzie: You could have a gay husband on the side, though.

Mel: Yeah, I could. Like, I could move to Utah and be one of those amorment. Oh, my God, my second husband. All of the guys, isn't it?

Suzie: Yeah, but all the guys there are gay for sure. Anyway, so don't worry about it.

Mel: Yeah, but that's the point. This is another episode. It's many wives and one husband isn't polygamy. It's never. Why is it never many husbands and one wife?

Suzie: There has been really. It's not like it's never been done where I'm. I've seen it on. On the Interweb.

Mel: On Netflix. On Netflix. Yeah. I want to know about that. Well, I don't want to do it.

Suzie: I want to know if you guys. If you guys know anyone in a gay weird relationship that maybe they're gay and maybe they're married to a straight person. That would be crazy.

And I'm hoping that the straight person knows that they're married to a gay.

Mel: Person, but I really do, because obviously.

Suzie: You know, and like, maybe these women are less Sexual than maybe myself or even you are.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: Do you know what I mean?

Mel: It would definitely work if you're asexual.

Suzie: If you would so work if you're asexual.

Mel: It would be perfect. Marry a gay man.

Suzie: Marry a gay man.

Mel: He would have to only, of course.

Suzie: Be okay with that.

Mel: He'd have to go and have his little sexual interactions and then come back to you. Yeah, but that would work. Or you could all live together and.

Suzie: You have a fabulous house.

Mel: You'd have an amazing.

Suzie: Imagine that apartment clean. Oh, my God. So well put together.

Mel: And if I tell you one thing, if I was married to a gay man, that I would really like is the towels. My husband is incapable of putting a towel on a rail.

Suzie: ******* God. What is with that?

Mel: And, like, getting it out so it dries. It's sort of all the tea towels.

Suzie: In the kitchen on the door hand, like on the door corner.

Mel: Or they do this thing like I fold them all lovely. And he just goes. And it goes. And I spend my life unscrunching towels and tea towels.

Suzie: I think it'd be great if you had a gay husband. They would always make you a great martini.

Mel: Yeah, I don't like martinis.

Suzie: No, but like a great cocktail then.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: At the end of the night, and they like. They'd have the ******* cocktails ready to go.

Mel: And like, I. As you know, I love china and I love glasses and accoutrement.

Suzie: Oh. And they would appreciate it so much. Okay, that's what I'm getting.

Mel: Okay, that's it.

Suzie: We're taking applications for gay husbands for Mel and myself. Sorry, Max, you're not a part of this anymore.

But yeah. Guys, if you have any thoughts on this, maybe lavender marriages are for you too.

Mel: I know.

Suzie: Maybe we gotta do some more research. There better be. Maybe that's an app.

Mel: Oh, my God.

Suzie: Oh, my God. We have to make it.

Mel: Oh, my God. That's such a good idea.

Suzie: If we don't do it. Guys, please take this.

Mel: Anybody steal the idea?

Suzie: Make the app Lavender. Lavender love.

Mel: I love.

Suzie: That's it.

Mel: Sold.

Suzie: Okay, guys, we'll talk to you later. Thanks for hanging out with us. And go to sharemytruth.com if you guys want to talk to us there about this.

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Suzie: Three, two one.

Mel: SA.