Episode # 99 - If Men Are Single and Women Are Single… Then WTF Is Going On?!
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Mel: Mm.
Suzie : Hey, babes.
Mel: Hello, darling.
Suzie : How are you?
Mel: I'm just fabulous.
Suzie : You look great in black.
Mel: Do I?
Suzie : Yeah. You wear color, which I love.
Mel: I used to wear black all the time when I was young.
Suzie : I know. I'm such a black. Like, black, black one.
Mel: Black, gray, black, gray, black, gray.
Suzie : I'm so boring.
Mel: And then I was like. And then you get worried when you get older that it's a bit like you're going to a funeral every day. Like, you look a bit washed out.
Suzie : You want to kind of just brighten it up.
Mel: Yeah, yeah. Sorry I'm getting this tangled.
Suzie : No, it's fine. I'm wearing, literally, a bodysuit that's going straight at my *****.
Mel: Oh, thanks.
Suzie : You're welcome. Just to give you a visual.
Mel: That's nice.
Suzie : I don't know who the **** invented these things for literal children.
Mel: I've got a bodysuit on too.
Suzie : I love a bodysuit.
Mel: Poppers and the vajayji.
Suzie : That's what's happening. Yeah.
Mel: Sometimes. Because they were very fashionable in trendy in the 90s. I've always worn them. They were super in, and then they went totally out. And then the rest. Yeah. And then the worst of the 1.
Why are we talking about this? When they have the hook and eyes? What do you call that?
Suzie : Yeah, yeah.
Mel: The little fiddling around you.
Suzie : Yes, that's what's happening.
Mel: Hoo. Ha. But poppers are one thing. Hook and I is fiddling around when you're down there.
Suzie : Oh, yeah. No, they're like in my. And I'm like, this isn't actually as comfortable as you'd think it would be.
Mel: It isn't. No. But it is good for me with the larger tage.
Suzie : Yes.
Mel: To keep it all.
Suzie : Yeah, exactly. You're not, like, worried about your shirt kind of coming up?
Mel: Yeah, no, that's why I like it.
Suzie : It's tough. It's like you wear an extra small and it's like for a child. And then you wear a medium and it's like for some large. And I'm like, no, I know.
You can't win. You can't win with these things. Women's clothing. It's exhausting. It's exhausting.
Mel: It is exhausting. And to be frank, never really that comfortable.
Suzie : No, it's never. It's actually never. It's actually supposed to be not. So you just buy more ****.
Mel: Yes. And I've been doing that for many years, so I'll just carry on.
Suzie : Let's do it.
Mel: Let's do it.
Suzie : Oh, what are we talking about today, Mel?
Mel: Well, what we're talking about today is response to two of our videos, two of our pods, episodes that we also now do. Audio and video.
Suzie : Very exciting. If you guys want to watch us on YouTube, like we mentioned, do it. We're actually very cute if you're not seeing us.
Mel: Yeah, just, you know, and one was about why is this phenomenon, Phenomenon, phenomenon of single women.
And that by whatever the date is, 2030 or whatever the statistics say. Yeah. That some huge percentage. What did we say it was? 45%, some big percentage of women are going to be between the ages of.
It wasn't 45. Now I'm getting all tangled up. But anyway, between the ages of like 25 and 40 are going to be single anyway. The point being a huge group of women are going to be single and.
Suzie : Those are like millennial Gen Z's. Like, we are literally driving. That's obviously my generation. Like, we are driving to become single women and don't need no man and childless.
Mel: So you won't be married.
Suzie : Which obviously, if you haven't heard the pod, go back and listen to it. We obviously give our takes on it, which obviously. Mel is married, it has two wonderful daughters, but I am a single Pringle in the city and who knows if it's going to stay that way.
But I am also in the sense of like, yeah, you're right, I actually don't need no man. Not that, but I just think they're a nice thing to play with.
Mel: Right.
Suzie : Like, that's amazing. If you want one, get one. Like, don't have it. Be be all, end all. Yeah, I need to be happy. I need a man. Thank God we don't live in that day and age.
Mel: Well, 100%. And so. So we got lots of comments from men and women on that video about, you know. Well, here, I'll read some.
Suzie : Oh, my God, you have Some. Okay, good. I was like, there's so many comments. I can't go through them.
Mel: So many.
Suzie : When you guys comment on YouTube, you're most likely talking to Mel, which is amazing. She loves to ask questions about your actual opinions, which we love.
Mel: I like. I like to hear your opinions.
Suzie : Yeah.
Mel: I may not agree with you, but that's fine. So, like, this guy says he's saving too much money.
Following passions, achieving goals, being content. You aren't going to invite some bored drama queen that needs constant entertainment with you footing the bill and into your life.
Suzie : So this is a man talking about his.
Mel: Yeah. About women.
Suzie : About. Sorry, so what is he saying?
Mel: Like, he's basically saying that. That. So what? Like, I don't need to date. So the consensus is there's a lot of men.
Suzie : Yeah.
Mel: So. Okay, I'm going to rewind a bit.
Suzie : Thank you very much. Yeah.
Mel: So we had one video where we talked about single women, and in the next video we talked about single men. Why? There's also this huge phenomenon of all these single men.
If you actually think about it, that's incredibly ****** up. So you've got all these sing men and all these single women. So why the **** don't you just go and date?
Suzie : I know, it's all awful.
Mel: What's the problem? And then we just got all. And then I just. To me, like, all the comments, it's like a lot of anger. Yeah. From women and men. Women angry at men, thinking, you know, I don't need you, I can make my own money, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Suzie : Yeah.
Mel: Which. Fair enough. And that is a result of, you know, let's be frank, the feminist movement and years and years and years of not being able to do that. Yeah. So young women today, and even, you know, when I.
It's not a new thing. When I was in my 20s, I was also working to pay for myself. I wasn't looking to get married to financially be stable. I was already in a good job and stuff like that.
That's the way I was raised. And so women, I'd say from Gen X onwards, we've all done that. We've got an education, got jobs, and figured that, number one, we're going to be able to support ourselves.
And then hopefully, if we're looking for a relationship with a man, we'll meet a nice man and, you know, he will be somewhat of a provider so we can both provide together.
Suzie : Yeah.
Mel: And then obviously, because women have children, that at certain points the man will probably have to provide more than the woman. And that's pretty much what most of my friends did.
They've all worked.
Suzie : Yeah.
Mel: And then.
But then the thing that's so messed up is I think a lot of young women are very angry about not being able to find a man.
Like, they can't find a man. They go on these ******* apps that seem to me. I mean, I just. Thank ****. I.
Suzie : And I've showed you them. I've showed you the ones that I have. And I mean, they're exhausting. I'm not even on Hinge anymore.
Mel: It sounds. They sound just gross.
Suzie : And I. I tried Bumble for a day because I was like, okay, I'm off Hinge. Maybe I'll go on Bumb. And so I went on Bumble. And I was like, I, like, made my part.
And I was like. And Bumble's weird because it gives you a timeline. You like a guy, you match with them, and it gives you a time, like, limit as to when you can make your first move.
And I'm like, well, this is now exhausting because I'm gonna have to keep checking back or if I want to. Right? Like. And I'm like, I don't want a time limit on this **** like this.
That's stressful as ****.
You're making this more stressful, I feel like, than it was anyways.
Mel: Yeah.
Suzie : So anyways, I don't know. The apps are horrible.
Mel: They seem like nobody seems to like them. I think from my. What I've listened to what people have said to me, what we've talked about, what the comments that people have made is.
They just seem very transactional. And so they've made dating this really sort of transactional thing. Like, whereas the idea is that you meet somebody, arranged or not, because you might meet through a friend or some kind of family thing might have arranged it, or you might meet them in the bar.
Different ways to meet people, Right.
Then you get to know them, and then if you don't like them, you move on. If you do, you carry on. It's really not complicated, is it? And obviously, you might have to do that a few times until you meet a nice guy or a nice woman.
Works both ways. But in the old days, in the old days, you went out and you met people, you went to bars, you went to parties, you went to dinner, you went to stuff, and you met people.
Suzie : Yeah.
Mel: And you didn't know on date one how a. How big their ***** was, how much money they made, whether they were going to be the president of whatever. Whatever, how many children they wanted.
To have what their parents owned. I mean, you didn't know any of this stuff. You just went on the day.
Suzie : Yeah, we know way too much about what who we are going out with. And we make way too many judgments before we even have met them versus even talk to them 100%.
Mel: And it's this crazy thing that we used to do, Susie. We used to do this thing called talking.
Suzie : Ew, disgusting.
Mel: How Blow your mind. So then I think it's just what I see from the two videos because we try. We tried as much as we could. I like before anybody comes for us because a few people have got a.
Suzie : Little come for us *****, but go for it.
Mel: A little bit excited about this is we are women. So obviously we're probably going to have a certain point point of view. We're not men.
Suzie : We don't have penises.
Mel: I don't definitely don't have a *****.
And. But we are from two different generations, so we have a different point of view, of course. But we're similar in the sense that we've both. I still work. We both work.
Suzie : We're all very open to other people's opinions.
Mel: Very open to other people's opinions. You do you. If you born and work, don't want to do whatever you want to do. As far as I'm concerned in life, it's none of my business, but I just think there seems to be a huge amount of hatred.
Like there's a lot of. And obviously social media is like a breeding ground for that.
Suzie : Well, that's the thing too, I think for even me, when I go on Instagram for too long, I'm like, wow, I'm depressed. But when I'm off of it for like a day, I'm like, holy ****, life is good.
Life is fresh. And so when people are on, especially YouTube, I think, yeah, YouTube is a very weird and negative space.
Mel: Yeah, I think it's a bit like Reddit. It's a circle. And I think, you know, what is it? Is it because people spend too much time online? I think people say stuff they wouldn't say to your face.
There's lots of weird stuff like that.
Suzie : A lot of fake profiles. You don't have to put your image on anything 100.
Mel: So there's a lot of that. So you kind of have to take that all with a. A grain of salt. But it just. It's just odd to me the way sort of men and women have coming at this with hatred for me.
Each side going, they can't find anyone. And you're like, well, maybe we should set up a dating agency. Maybe we should link them all up. My God, maybe that's the answer.
Because, like, this guy, for example, said.
Suzie : Everyone'S just horny and that's why they're so mad.
Mel: Of course, it's not complicated.
So this man said, well, I assume it's a man, because he talked about women. Women change the relationship landscape from the mid-70s. Men are just responding to it. Consequences for changing, status quo.
Live with it. So there's quite a lot of kind of.
What's the word? That, you know, it's a little assertive. It's comment. And you're like, I understand what you're saying. There has been a change, right, because of feminism. And it's not your generation, it's my generation of women.
We changed. We weren't like our mothers. I'm nothing like my mother or my grandmother, Although my mother actually worked. But that's. And so did my grandmother. But that's another conversation for another day.
Progressive in my family anyway. But I always work. I was brought up to go out and get a job. I was not brought out to go and find a man and breed.
Now horse, I was. Yike.
Suzie : I was a prize horse. You'd be darling, though.
Mel: I was, you know, sent to good schools and good universities, get an education, get a good job, be able to stand on your own two feet and, you know, if you're lucky, you'll meet somebody and you'll add to that.
Not that's the thing that's going to make you kind of thing, if that makes sense.
Suzie : Yeah.
Mel: But my generation, it didn't change with young women. And I get the feeling a lot of women today, they're like, oh, this is something that suddenly happened. No, no, of course, this has been going on for a generation anyway.
But this man is commenting on feminism, and I, you know, without getting to sounding like an angry woman, which I'm really not, is I want to say to men like that, why do you think there was a feminist movement?
Yeah, there was a feminist movement because of the way men behaved in the past. Men are biologically stronger than men. Women, sorry, we can argue this, but they are. So they use their strength, you know, and they use their financial physical strength against women.
I am not in any way saying all men do this, because that's the horrible thing that women do to men is they say that all men are like this. It's absolute bullshit.
They are not. There is.
Suzie : It's not all men, but it's always a Man, Yeah, for sure.
Mel: But there's a group, you know, but there are lots of men who are not like this.
Suzie : Of course.
Mel: But the point is there was a feminist movement for a reason. It was a reaction to having to change.
Suzie : Men looked at women as objects and they could. They still sort of do.
Mel: Because they could.
Suzie : Exactly. And that's like. And so we were like, maybe just. We have also a brain and we can also use it. And we're also useful in other ways than breeding children.
Mel: Right.
Suzie : Like, and that's just something that we had. Men had to learn, right.
Mel: 100%.
Suzie : They were like. When they were told they were brought up with mothers, that's it. And sisters and no one ******* work. But now obviously we're in a different area.
Mel: We're in a different. And we're in a different era. Things changed. And so the feminist movement came about and women, you know, it's like, should.
Suzie : You have to explain the feminist ******* movement to people right now? Jesus Christ.
Mel: Obviously that's going to change the dynamics between men and women. Like, you know, my grand. My mother's mother had to get married when she was 19 because she got pregnant. That doesn't have to happen anymore.
She hated my grandfather.
She hated him. But she got married to the guy because she had to. That was the situation. She did actually work, but, you know, she had to get married and that was what had to happen.
That is not the case anymore. That has not been the case for, you know, 50 plus years. And women can be financially independent. So of course that has changed the landscape of relationships.
It's also changed the fact that women don't just have to marry whoever because A, they've got pregnant or B, they just, they need money. They don't have to do that, you know, like.
So of course that's changed things. And then there seems to be so comments like that. You're just like making out that it's women. Well, actually it's not. It's men and women.
So men behave a certain way, women reacted. Maybe now they're not always behaving in.
Suzie : Well, now men are behaving to the fact that they are in. Unable to get a woman.
Mel: 100.
Suzie : And now women are behaving in the fact that they're like, well, it. I don't even, I want, I don't even want a man at this point because now I can take care of myself and now I can.
I actually saw something of Taylor Tomlinson. She's a comedian, she's, she's funny, she's like A millennial comedian. Like, you know, but she was like, you know, I, she's like 30ish and she's like, you know, now that I'm successful and I was trying to date and I wanted a man and now she's like, well, now it's really nice and I don't have to, I can just go home and like do my own thing and like, I can take care of myself.
I can eat whatever I like what I want. I don't have to like take care of someone else. And it's like a lot of women are in that exact same thing or because men do have a draining effect on women.
And it is very. It's now known that single women later, later in life that have no kids actually live a more, sometimes more fulfilled life.
Mel: Yeah, I mean I have.
Suzie : And I'm not saying that's always, but that's a lot of single women later are much just happier because they've never had to deal with men.
Mel: Yeah. And like, and that's the point, you know, I'm making is like, I understand that there's a lot, you know, and there's a lot of comments on our videos of men saying, well, women changed it and now they don't like it.
I think you're really simplifying it. There was a situation, feminism came about, we changed it. And yes, now there is a bit of a problem where there are a lot of women and a lot of men who are single, who don't want to be single is really.
And some who do. So like in everything there's a melange, there's a mixture of everything and. But comments like, you know, you changed it, deal with it and stuff. I don't understand the point of that because you're saying that women just came up with this idea.
Suzie : Men don't have a capacity to know what it's like to be a woman.
Mel: No, I mean, but like that's what that is.
Suzie : I think it's just like men actually don't understand because one, they've never gotten a period in their life. Right. They're never going to understand the pain of a period or any kind of hormonal changes that are so extreme that ones that women get literally every day of every month of whatever, they're never going to have a baby, they don't have to carry that, they're never going to have to worry about getting pregnant.
There are so many worries for us. And like men will. They don't think about in the day to day. I had a conversation today with one of my male friends who was like, oh yeah, you know, you probably had to deal with a lot of, you know, kind of men coming on to you.
And he says that because he's, you know, he thinks like I'm attractive, which is very nice. But I was like, yeah, but that's all women. Like all women have to deal with men coming onto them all the time.
Doesn't actually matter if they're attractive or like following them from home. Like, we actually have to worry about so many things. And so if we're actually just not worried about men because we actually have money ourselves.
Yeah, like that's a huge thing.
Mel: It is a huge thing. And I think like, so, you know, in the interest, I'm trying to, from my point of view, have this conversation from both sides. So everyone, so we're trying, I think we're both trying to do this to highlight from both sides the male and the female.
Suzie : Yeah.
Mel: And for everyone to stop friggin hating on each other. Like this person who I assume is a man said women, as usual thought that they behave as they want and demand and men should tolerate it.
Women thought that there would be no consequences, but here are the consequences. Result. Now strong and independent women who say they don't need anyone are crying, especially after they turn 35, 30 to 35, that they're alone and that men don't approach them and they blame men.
Take the responsibility for your choices. And I'm like, look, okay, so if you unpick what that person has said. Yeah, yeah. Less men are approaching women because of this culture of, of I guess, fear, if you like, which has been created.
But again, the reason it's been create is because so many men did approach women in a really, you know, not a nice way. I mean, I've spoken to you about this when I was, you know, your age or a bit younger and dating and I was working and I worked in all male environments because I was in sales and in advertising and just, it was just men and they were not politically correct, shall we put it that way.
I can rattle off I don't know how many circumstances of men being very, very sexual in the way they spoke to me, in the way they kind of touched me or wanted to.
Like, you know, you're just in a business thing and then it's always about, you know, do you want to go out and like, no, you know, like it was very.
There were no boundaries, let's put it that way. And that was that era. And I'm not saying in Any way, it was all men. That is not true. But it was quite prolific because there were no boundaries that we hadn't set any boundaries.
So men did it. And then when women complained, like in my office, there were like three women and all the rest were men. I was the only salesperson, and the rest were.
The women were, like, in the design part of work for a magazine. And these two men once got told off about the way they were treating this woman because she complained to our male boss.
And then they just ostracized her. They didn't talk to her. So in those days, that's what happened. So she complained and then she was treated like **** because the way they spoke to her, which was the way they spoke to me, was appalling.
But those particular men, in that instance didn't. It was. They were words. And so what women did in those days, we just kind of fought back with words. But what I'm saying is, you know, everything that happens happens for a reason.
So why are women single? Women are going to be more single because they are making more choices about the fact that I do. I want a partner because he's funny, he's handsome, he provides, whatever.
Do I need all of those things? One of those things.
Suzie : Women are single because we're not settling 100.
Mel: That's what I'm saying.
Suzie : Well, no, exactly. It's like. It's like, well, if I can't find someone who doesn't provide, if I can't find someone who isn't exactly.
Not exactly, but mostly of what I want him to be, then why the **** am I settling? If I can just take care of myself and be happy 100%.
Mel: But I. I think, like, there's this idea that this is a new thing. Like, I would say a lot of my friends, they married much later in life, much later in life, had babies much later in life because they didn't meet the person that was basically worth settling down with.
And they met that person later and had their career and so on. And I don't. You know, that's a choice you make as a woman. There are obviously consequences for that.
But there's a choice. What is the issue with that? So then men are. Now, then there are all these single men who are very angry. You know, they're angry because I think, if I can analyze it, what has happened is a whole group of women that they might otherwise have partnered up with are saying, no, I don't want you.
And if I. If I. I just prefer to be alone.
Suzie : Yeah.
Mel: Which is what they're saying. And then all these men say, oh, well, you're gonna be miserable when you're 45 and you're gonna be.
Suzie : It's like, well, I'd rather not have you.
Mel: Well, exactly. And the answer is, they may be. And they may not be. They may be fine.
Suzie : Look, if I married my, like, first boyfriend, whatever, when I was, like, 18, 19, I would be right now. Like, I'd be so miserable, or I would already be divorced at 29.
And why the **** would I want to do that?
Mel: Well, 100%.
Suzie : And a lot of people. Women have already gone through that.
Mel: Yeah. And so I'm, you know, like, there's so much anger and, like, men saying, as a man, I think it's a good thing. For infinite reasons, modern men and modern women are not compatible.
I mean. What does he mean? What are you ******* talking about? What are you talking about? No, the difference now is that women do not have to get married because they're pregnant.
They do not have to get married to buy a house. They do not have to do these things that they had to do in the past. So does that mean that's changed the dating game?
Yes, of course it has, because of what's happened in the past. Are women standing up and saying, no, you can't do this? Setting boundaries, calling things out, you know? And, you know, do they sometimes.
Do some women sometimes take advantage of these things? Yes, of course they do. Men, exactly.
Suzie : Like, are you *******?
Mel: Well, that's what I'm saying. So we're human, and it's just like, you need to, like, you know, wind your neck in. That's a. That's an English. That's an English expression. Wind your neck and, like, pull it back.
Suzie : Yeah.
Mel: Like, I understand if you are trying to date, and I. We do have a lot of comments. I think a lot of men somewhere between the ages of 30 to 45 who cannot find a partner, who've just kind of given up.
And, you know, you can come at me in the comments who are kind of.
Some have just gone, well, okay, that's what it is.
Some are angry, and there's a mixture of feeling, But I don't think directing that at women as a whole.
Suzie : I know.
Mel: Makes sense.
Suzie : Direct anger at.
Mel: Yeah. I just don't understand. If you can't find a partner, which I appreciate is difficult. The apps are horrible. Women.
Men don't approach women because they're scared of being accused of all sorts of things about that. What's that?
Suzie : Men are. I feel like Lazy about now, I think, getting into the fact of wanting to approach a woman. And I've also heard just like, men don't want to pay for first dates anymore.
Men don't even want to plan a first date. Like, yeah, men are just ******* lazy about finding a partner. So obviously you're not going to find someone quality if you're not going to put in the initial work for it.
Yeah, like, of course that's going to happen if you don't want to actually put in any kind of effort, especially in the first kind of dates.
Mel: Yeah, I mean, like this guy, well, I assume it's a guy says, I think you guys, as in us underestimate how many men never go out. Like, never. Oh, well, what's that sadder.
But what does that mean? I mean, you know, what does that mean? Because, you know, everyone has different things that they like to do. Like, some of us want to go to bougie restaurants.
Some of us aren't interested in it sometimes, like going to bars. Some of them, I mean, I know plenty of people who've met, like, because they have an interest. Let's say I know this pottery making.
Well, yeah, you may laugh, but honestly, like, no, I'm serious. Her sister was learning a language and she met her husband and they're now married and have a lovely life because they went to language, like the class to learn language.
And you're like, well, that seems like really obvious. They went to something. They didn't obviously go to meet somebody. They went because they have an interest and they wanted to do something positive with their time and they happened to meet somebody who the same interest, and they got along and they dated and they married.
You think, well, that makes like, I don't know, go to wine tasting. Go to just do something that interests you. Anything. It doesn't matter what.
Suzie : Leave the house.
Mel: Ballroom dancing.
Suzie : You're not going to find the person of your life on an app in the middle of your house. You're actually not.
Mel: You are not going to do that. You have to, actually.
Suzie : And that's for women too. That's for women too.
Mel: 100. I direct this at men and women. If you want to find a partner, it's different if you said, oh, you've given up. Which I really would like to say, please.
That's, that's, that's a crazy thing to say. If you're 30, 40, I mean, Christ, even if you're 60, you can meet somebody for good. I was 70. Is like, go out and do something that is positive.
That isn't like endlessly video games or shopping online. Because I think men and women both do the same thing.
Suzie : Well, we're just constantly on social media too, right?
Mel: Constantly.
Suzie : And then that gives us this like horrible, like what do we want to do? What are we looking to do? What are we looking our lives to look like?
Mel: Yeah.
Suzie : And it's like, because the algorithm feeds us all these things.
Mel: Yeah.
Suzie : And then it's like, well, I'm just, you know, if I don't get this, then I don't want it.
Mel: Well, yeah, And a lot of the men made these comments on our, in our videos saying, well, women are just looking for some kind of perfection. And I would, I would say, okay, I get that.
But then why do you want to go out with those women? Like there's one guy who, and I can't find the comment because it was kind of funny and he was going on about.
Suzie : Deleted that.
Mel: Yeah, hang on, I'm just gonna find the comment. Okay. Saving too much. Have I read this already? Saving too much money. Following passions, achieving goals, being content. You aren't going to invite some ball drummer queen that needs constant entertainment with you footing the bill into your life when you have that.
Suzie : You said read this one first.
Mel: Did I say or.
Suzie : I think so.
Mel: Okay, so I'm saying it again because the point is we had several comments like that.
Suzie : Yeah.
Mel: And you're like, hang on, this isn't fair. You're saying that all women are bored drama queens. That is really not fair. Like all men are not.
All women are not drama queen ******* who just want to drain you of money. That is not fair. And if you, if that's who you're meeting, you need to ******* go somewhere else and meet something different.
Suzie : Because people have like, like people have passions that they don't know about because they're spending so much time on social media. Right? Like we don't have hobbies anymore because we're like spending so much time looking at other people's hobbies.
Like that's what this is. And so it's like, yeah, of course you're gonna find people who are ******* bored and like not doing anything with their lives because you're also not doing anything with your life.
If you're doing your own passion, if you're finding something or you're just playing a sport or anything. Like you're gonna find people who are super similar minded or like, you know, and have different interests, then you're gonna learn something new.
And then, you know, all these other great things can Snowball. But if you're literally just looking at social media all day, going to work, coming home, walking your dog, watching tv, you're not going to *******.
But that's what are you expecting.
Mel: But that's what people are doing.
Suzie : I know, but what are you expecting the outcome to be? You're not going to find any.
Mel: Yeah. And I don't know because we've just created this world where this is what people live.
Suzie : Yes.
Mel: And somehow they think, you know, somebody's going to come along. I have no idea. Like who? The Amazon delivery guy. I mean, you know, I mean paymar maybe. But you know, it's like, well, that's their only interaction for the day is what I mean.
I'm sure the Amazon delivery guy is very nice, so please don't ups. Maybe they make more. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But the point I'm making is that yes, there are a lot of men who are ********, quite frankly, but there are lots of women who also, like this guy said, horrible gold digging drama queens.
But then of course there's an enormous, enormous thing in the middle of all the normal people who are not ******** and are not gold diggers and just would like to meet because they'd like to create a life together.
Suzie : Trust me, I know a lot of basic girls who just want to settle down.
Mel: Yeah.
Suzie : Have a night, like work their little job that they like, you know, have kids.
Mel: Yeah.
Suzie : Just. I know, I know so many normal people out there who like are not able to find someone or who have settled down really early and when you find a normal person, usually they're very on top of like this is what I want.
And then they go for that. Do you know what I mean? Like, yeah, if you just keep, keep thinking, if you just quit pushing your narrative towards yourself even and keep saying it to yourself, of course that's what's going to become your reality.
You can't expect something you can't expect to be proven wrong.
Mel: Yeah.
Suzie : You know, like it's just, it's this weird thing that people are doing to themselves.
Mel: Yeah. I mean, I think basically what we're saying because we're trying to answer the comments because we did a video on men and women.
Suzie : Are there women comments?
Mel: Yeah.
Suzie : All we've have is men, men who are just on our.
Mel: It's a lot more men than women to be honest.
Suzie : So. Interesting. Hey guys.
Mel: And, and, and one of the women actually sent us a. It was great. She sent us a. Oh yeah, go.
Suzie : Back to that episode. That's a good one.
Mel: But I Think the police.
Suzie : If you have a, if you have a comment please go to YouTube and tell your piece. I will protect you in the comments from these.
Mel: Yeah, we want some female comments but the, the answer is there are lots of nice men and lots of nice women.
Suzie : Of course there are.
Mel: And you and like normal people and they need to find a way and I appreciate this is very difficult of meeting in a normal way which is not on the apps.
So you need to go and do something like normal like, like I said join. Do you have an interest? You know, go and do something where you're gonna be somewhere where you're gonna meet people.
You are not gonna meet people in your basement behind your screen on a friggin app where. You know I saw this tick tock the other day of this girl sitting next to this man, 70 year old man on a plane who was catfishing is when you pretend you're somebody else, isn't it?
Yeah. Because I was thinking what the hell does that mean? Yeah. Is that like. So this guy is trying to, you know, is contacting this girl in this app.
Suzie : Yes.
Mel: So this girl, girls, you know when you're sitting in a plane, you're very close, right. She's looking over his shoulder and he's contacting this girl. They're messaging but his, his picture obviously is of some young guy.
Oh my God. So he's got reeled this girl in. So you're like that's the problem with it. It's like it's not, it's not real, is it?
Suzie : No.
Mel: So go and meet people in a real context. Yeah, I mean I know that's very easy for me to say, but you're gonna have to get out there into the.
Suzie : No one wants to do that. Okay, well let's, let's move on.
Mel: I don't know if we can say.
Suzie : Anything else honestly guys. And I'm sure we'll have a bunch of fresh comments about this one after this anyways.
Mel: But we have tried to answer this.
Suzie : We have. And I don't think we're gonna solve it. I think people are still gonna. But if we can change one person's mind.
Mel: Yes.
Suzie : Then that would be ******* fantastic.
Mel: Thank you, President Susie.
Suzie : Yes, no worries. No, I'm very happy to be voted in. Thank you very much everyone.
Anyways, we haven't done this in a while because our episodes have been a little bit longer about main topics. But we want to talk about what's the tea today? And Mel has good little what's the tea.
So I want to ask you, Mel, what's the tea girl?
Well, I said tea.
Mel: What is the.
Suzie : You have the tea about the article about the New York Post.
Mel: Oh, yeah.
Tea was. So this actually does come from one of somebody in our comments who. I thought this was great. So thank you very much for this. So he said to me that if you go to the New.
There was a story in the New York Post. I think this does date back to 2022, and 2023 is that women are asking. Are charging men. This is in 20.
This is from 2022. The D Bag tax. What's the data? Douchebag. Babe. Douchebag. Sorry. Okay, New York. You see, this is a Gen X moment. I don't know. That means.
Suzie : Can you read that title again? What was it?
Mel: It says the D bag.
Suzie : No, I know. Can you read the whole thing again?
Mel: Oh, yeah, the D vag tax. New York women are charging men up to 3,000 for failed relationships and bad dates.
Suzie : I love it.
Mel: But I do. I do want to understand. Why are you going on the ******* date if you have to pay?
Suzie : Wait, what do you mean?
Mel: Oh.
Suzie : Oh, no, I think they're charging them for their time.
Mel: This is called something else then.
Suzie : Did you read the whole article? No. Do you want me to skim it?
Mel: Yeah. Yeah.
Suzie : Okay.
Mel: I don't know if you can. And then there's one in 2023. I guess you can cut this bit out. Yeah.
Suzie : Because it just says for failed relationships and bad dates.
Mel: But why? If you're. Oh, you mean they're going on. But he said to me that there was an article where they're actually charging to go on the date.
Suzie : Oh, that's funny.
Mel: Like, before.
Suzie : That would be before they even go.
Mel: But this is. Yeah. Is that like.
Suzie : No way.
Mel: 2023. There's another article.
Suzie : Okay, so this is 2022.
Mel: So they're charging after the date.
Suzie : Yeah, they're. Yeah, exactly. They're charging for the failed relationship up to $3,000. Well, they might. Let me see. Okay, hold on.
Mel: You'd have to be an idiot.
Suzie : Okay, so this girl sends a Venmo request for an amount ranging from 1500 to $3000 to dates who behave poorly.
Sarah was fed up, okay? The New York City social worker who declined to give her last name had countless dates cancel on her at the last minute. So when a man she met on an app recently pulled out of their date an hour beforehand, she agreed to reschedule with one caveat.
He would Venmo her a 50 deposit.
Mel: Yeah, okay. That's what it is. Yeah.
Suzie : No, that's funny.
Mel: Why would you pay that? Just say, **** off and go on date.
Suzie : No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't pay that, obviously.
Mel: I mean, what's wrong with you?
Suzie : I mean. Okay, wait, wait, here's the thing. The man agreed to the terms and sent her the money. They met up for a drink on a Monday night in Hell's Kitchen.
Whatever.
And he would. He was fully engaged at the entire time, paying for their cocktails. Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Mel: Why has he done that?
Suzie : Look at. But the. Look at. That worked.
Mel: That's just stupid.
Suzie : Oh, so she said. So she'll get it back. So he'll get it back when he goes on the date.
Mel: Oh, this is depressing.
Suzie : No, that's actually makes so much sense. I know that doesn't make sense to you, but that actually makes sense to so literally this woman.
Mel: Yeah.
Suzie : Ask for a deposit. Be like, if you're going to reschedule on me, then stop wasting my ******* time. Give me a ******* money or I'm going to stop talking to you.
Mel: Wow.
Suzie : Do you know what I mean? Because this happens all the time. You don't understand.
Mel: I know this is something you don't understand. I don't understand. But I just. I just don't think I could be asked to date if that's the case. That's just depressing.
Suzie : No, she's putting like a time value.
Mel: Yeah.
Suzie : Which is. Honestly, because this happens all the time. People. Ghost people. Which, you know, unfortunately, I've done, too. But, like, if you're going to ******* put. If you're going to be like, let's stop wasting time here.
If we're actually going to own the state. Give me a deposit. I'll hold on to it. You can have it after the date.
Mel: But what if men do that to women?
Suzie : Why would a man do that to a woman?
Mel: Well, I don't know. You tell me. But I mean, it's wild.
Suzie : No, that's. I mean, that's hilarious.
Mel: So you like it? You see, I love this. I think it's wild.
Suzie : I think men understand money more than they understand women. And so when you're putting something that is physically they can see and understand, maybe they put more value into it, which is gross.
Mel: I think you're doomed. Really? You're doomed.
Suzie : Yeah, but this whole generation is doomed.
Mel: I understand why she's making more fun, but you're doomed. You are doomed.
Suzie : Oh, my God, this is so funny. I just think this is amazing.
Mel: Okay. I think it's amazing that he paid.
Suzie : I Think it's also amazing.
Okay. This person. So she's someone else. Sent around six Venmo requests ranging from 1,500 to $3,000, depending on their financial situation. LOL. That makes me. LOL.
Over the years, to different men she's dated, she listed infidelity, secret marriages, and hiding having multiple sexual partners from her as some of the reasons for the charges.
Putting a monetary value on caddish conduct helps men to better understand, this is what I'm saying. The error of their ways. Adding that she puts the phrase the D bag tax douchebag.
That's for you, Mel.
Mel: Thank you.
Suzie : In all of her veteran requests.
Okay.
New York is the narcissist capital.
Okay. They're not going to understand what you did. Really hurt my feelings. Because they don't grasp feeling. They grasp money. That's what I'm saying. They actually understand that.
Mel: Wow. I think that we're doomed. The human race.
Suzie : She says that the venue requests have been cathartic and she's submitted them to men who offended her in various ways. One man had promised her with rent, but required a not so subtle reminder.
Another abandoned her on a weekend getaway in Atlantic City because he expected more of her. A third dude ghosted her and resurfaced a month later married to another woman. It's pretty bad.
Mel: Did they pay?
Suzie : I don't. I don't. Doesn't say. It doesn't say if those guys paid, which are like. But maybe the request. Like putting the request out there helps her feel better. Yeah. Which is like, fine.
Because it's not like.
Mel: Do you think. So this, this. So this is a question about this kind of bad behavior. Do you think it's you? I'm asking you personally. Okay. I love it.
Do you think it's more often men than women?
Suzie : Doing what?
Mel: Behaving bad like this. Like.
Suzie : No, I don't think it's more men in the room. I think it's both. I think it's absolutely both.
Mel: That I think is because I know.
Suzie : What a lot of crazy *******.
Mel: Right, Right. Exactly. So I would agree with that. So, and. And what about situations where I saw this on some kind of social media thing? I don't know what it was.
I can't remember because it was stupid. But it was this girl who's going on dates. Yeah. And she looks a certain way. She doesn't look like you. Let's put it that way.
And she went on a date. Now I. It seems like her profile. I think she showed it. Like they kind of know, well, she looks a bit different. But anyway, she met up with the guy and at the date, but like outside the restaurant and he's like chatting hi, blah, blah, blah, and he's all kind of nice and they go into the restaurant.
So it's like 15, 10, 15 minutes. And then he turns her and says, I don't think this is going to work, and walks out.
Or something along those lines, basically. And I asked, I said to Max, I said, so, what do you think? And he said, well, obviously he thought she. The profile doesn't look like what came to the date.
And he thought, what's the point of wasting their time? Now I do understand that's very male view. Men will be like, what's the point of wasting everyone's time? Let's cut our losses and run.
That's very male, honestly. Yeah. And in the long run, in the long run it's probably a good thing, but in the short term, he's completely crushed this girl. Yeah.
Suzie : You didn't have to do that.
Mel: What's the answer there?
Suzie : I don't know.
My ex told me I may have talked about this already on this pod. My ex told me that he went on a blind date and because we're friendly and we talk about stuff like that and he went on a blind date and from a friend who set him up.
And she was.
Mel: Didn't look. Oh, I see.
Suzie : Like he didn't know at all what she was gonna look like.
And I was like, what did you do? And he was like, well, we obviously had a drink and he wasn't. He's not going to. He's not like that. He would never do that.
But yeah, that's horrible. I mean, like, I can't even imagine going on a blind date with. I can't even imagine going on a blind date anyways and not ever, ever actually seeing the person of what I'm going to do.
But I just like. And they were so ugly. And I was repulsed.
It's just horrible.
I mean.
Mel: So the moral of the story, and this goes, I think, particularly to women, but also to men, is do not lie on your dating profiles. Put an accurate picture. I know you're not gonna get as many whatever swipes meet whatever the **** it is.
Suzie : He likes these.
Mel: Yeah, but what difference does it make? You're not gonna. I don't know, if you meet them, they're gonna go anyway. So don't you want to just meet.
Suzie : People that it's who actually want you for you?
Mel: Maybe so. Yeah. So that's that lesson. Anyway, that's. That's what I have to say about.
Suzie : Anyways. Yeah. I'm actually obsessed with these women. That these women are doing this. I don't know if it's the right thing to do. I don't ******* care. I think it's ******* hilarious.
If they can get any kind of money out of these guys who are ******* around. Yeah, why not?
Mel: But these guys are. Lots of men are not.
Suzie : No, I'm not saying every man.
Mel: Maybe they're just. But I just find it. Yeah, it's depressing. I just think.
Suzie : Yeah.
Mel: Put this.
Suzie : My time is valuable. You're wasting it.
Mel: Pay up. Maybe they need to integrate this into the dating app.
Suzie : Oh, my God. That would be amazing. That would kind of be like prostitution, though.
Mel: Kind of ridden this completely escort. Utterly.
Suzie : Like an escort app.
Mel: Like prostitution.
Suzie : I don't know. Anyway, on that note, we've talked enough. For ****'* sakes. If you guys have any kind of insight. I know we've talked a lot and we've said a lot of our opinions.
Mel: On this, but stories, we want the stories.
Suzie : We want you guys opinions and stories about if this has happened to you. Maybe you venmoed or, you know, requested a money transfer or sent a transfer to money or, you know, did you leave, Are you single and you're unhappy and you want to talk about it, we want to talk to you.
Mel: I want to talk about that. I want to hear from you. If you went on a date and thought, oh my God. And wanted to get out of it and you did or you didn't, we want to hear about it.
I know.
Suzie : We love you guys so much.
Mel: Yeah. Until next time. Goodbye for us.
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