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Hey, babes.

How are you?

You're laughing.

Mel: I'm fine.

Suzie: You're having a. A tough day. You're smiling through the pain very well, actually. She's a busy girl.

Mel: Yeah, no, it's fine. It's all fine. It's all under control.

Suzie: Keep going. Carry on.

Mel: As they say, absolute MA in the wake of crisis. No, there's no crisis. Everything's fine.

Suzie: Everything's completely fine. Well, it's good to hear, babe.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: And we are chatting about something interesting.

Mel: Yes.

Suzie: We. In one of our previous episodes. If you haven't listened to it, go back.

Lovely guest, Jeff James.

He helps people.

And we had spoken a little bit about this with him.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: And this is about how women like you and me, Mel, we are the gatekeepers of sex.

Mel: I'm facing you more now.

Suzie: I like that.

Mel: Yes. Well, he, I agreed with him on this point that he said that women are the gatekeepers of sex from the age.

Well, from a young age. So say 18. We weren't.

Don't be any younger than that. 18.

That. That's when it starts. But 18 to 25,

basically, when they're young that, you know, women,

Men do basically,

generally, I'm sure people are going to come for me for this. But like, young women, they're like beautiful young women. Women are beautiful when they're young. They're not, not, not beautiful when they're older,

but they're particularly, especially beautiful.

Suzie: Well, because men smell out fertile women.

Mel: Yeah, that's like, you know, like, like, what do they call that?

Suzie: Let's not pretend that, you know, we don't have a biological clock and men 100% want to fertilize us.

Mel: But the point he was making, and he's right, that men of the same way want you when you're that age. But men, older, like it's all men,

as opposed to as you get older, that changes.

And you are young,

so you haven't experienced this shift yet,

which has nothing to do in your case. It will have nothing to do with how attractive you are.

It's just the older you get,

men like younger women.

And I know men are going to go, oh, no, we don't. But it's true.

Suzie: I think men, men can admit that they do.

Mel: Oh, well, I'm, I'm sure somebody will.

Suzie: Contradict, but I also feel like I somewhat agree with you. But I also think like, at the older age, women, obviously, that's not me yet,

but women over, let's say 35 or maybe 40. Let's. Women over 40 are still very much in control of the sex of get. Of giving sex.

I don't think. Well, because you know what I mean. Like, you're saying that like, men are the ones who are at like, let's say like after 40,

men are the ones who are getting to choose who they get to have sex with.

Mel: I'd say more like after 30.

Suzie: I just don't think that's true.

Mel: Okay, so this, okay, so this, this is where we let, let's. I'm gonna go ahead, love, explain what I think. Cause I think there's two different points. So I think there's sex and there's relationships.

So I think at any age, literally until you're in the grave, you can have sex. If your standards are low, you could go out there and meet somebody anywhere.

Suzie: Are you talking about at any age?

Mel: At any age.

Suzie: Right.

Mel: If you're, if you're up for it.

Suzie: You'Re talking about women or men?

Mel: Both. If you're up for it. Right.

Suzie: And you think it's very hard for men to find anyone to have sex with. Like they have to try really hard.

Mel: Really? At.

Suzie: In this day and age, it's like, I think unless you're, Unless you have no standards. Is that what you're saying?

Mel: Yeah, right, sure. Everyone, you both have no standards. If you, you can, you can.

Suzie: If you don't care who, you're sure get late.

Mel: Okay, so this is the point is sex and relationships are two different things. Okay. Like you could go to the supermarket, as we've both done recently.

Suzie: Yes.

Mel: You were chatted up by a very handsome young man. Me, not so much. But you could literally go in Your schlubbies in your like tracky bees, as we call them in England.

Tracky bottoms, lots of that.

Looking like death.

And somebody wants some man wants to talk to you. Now in my case,

the older you get,

the quality somewhat diminishes,

maybe.

Well, okay, but the point is, is that you could meet that person. Yeah, sure. Let's talk about watermelon. Let's go and have sex. Which is.

What happened to you about watermelon?

Suzie: You're like 20 years old.

Mel: Yeah, I didn't do the sex bit, but you know, I just think that women.

Okay, I've got to get this straight because you're disagreeing with me. So when young, when you're young, you really have an awful lot of power as a young woman. You're young, you're beautiful.

Every man desires you. If you're young and beautiful.

Suzie: Absolutely.

Mel: It's the truth. And you got a personality like you. It's easy, right? The older you get,

the less men desire you. As you get older, it's not that you're not attracted. It's not that there aren't plenty of men who find you attract. It's not that,

just something shifts. Is it the biological thing? I don't know. But the older you get. You know, when let's say Mel was 30 or 40, well, you know, I was married, so it didn't make any difference.

But the point is, is that then there are a thousand males under me who are 25. Yeah, but that makes sense.

Suzie: It does, but can I tell you what I think? Shifts.

Mel: Go on then.

Suzie: I believe that women,

after,

let's say 35 to 40, I feel like this kind of happens where they sort of give up and they don't care as much about like finding people to have sex with.

They are truly like they're happy if they, if they don't have a relationship at this point. They're happy in their little cocoon where they're little friends and they don't want to put themselves out there anymore for sex or for anything.

And I have friends like this and I have. I know a lot of other women who are dealing with this right now and they don't want to put the effort in anymore.

They're jaded. They're jaded from past relationships or past men and they don't want to put themselves out there. Like you, a 25 year old would.

Of course.

Mel: Yeah, I would agree with that 100%. Like the. It's a bit like when you're young.

Like I was probably similar to You. I loved going out, love going to bars, nightclubs. I mean they're not really called nightclubs anymore, are they? What are they? What are they called?

Clubs. Clubs.

And I loved going out. I was very social from a very young age, like partying and then you kind of get to an age and obviously I got married, had children.

It's just boring because you've done it many, many times like anything.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: So there is an element of that. And like now my idea of a great evening out would be go to a really nice restaurant, have a lovely bottle of wine, have some cocktails and then I'm done.

I don't need the pre, I don't need the post.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: The meal. Let's go.

Suzie: But this is like, it's changes but it's the women who are,

they don't want to meet anyone. Anywhere is like the thing. Right. So they're just, they're staying in, they're doing something with their friends. They are with their friends but they don't really want to meet anyone because they've sort of given up.

But if they didn't have that mentality and they had like they, this separate mentality of being like no, I'm still hot, I'm still attract, like I'm still attractive, I'm successful, I'm all these things and I want to go ****.

They still could do that but I just feel like they don't allow themselves that privilege anymore.

Mel: Yeah, I, I, I don't. Yeah. I'm not saying you're not wrong. I just think that the yes, they can go **** but can they go and get married? Get, get, have a relationship gets harder and harder and harder.

Right, right. Because men want younger women and it's not, it's not a criticism of men or women. It biology that you know, you kind of hit a certain age and men are starting to if they're 40 or 30, like look at the dating apps.

If a man is 40 there is no way he is looking for a 40 year old.

Suzie: Right.

Mel: There's no way. Yeah. The base level is a 30 year old.

Suzie: Yeah. I mean if 40. Do women even want to go with a 40 year old man? The 40 year old women want to go with a 50 year old man, do they not?

I don't have a lot of 40 year old friends yet.

Mel: I mean I would say in that age group, not necessarily. I'd say most of my friends who've got divorced and who've kind of had relationships, it's either they've tried very hard to have relationship.

And they're all very attractive. They're just older.

Suzie: Right.

Mel: They're just in the 50s, the 40s, whatever. They're just not in their 30s.

They've tried to have relationships with men of their age.

Kind of hard. Yeah. Can they have sex with their own. Yeah, absolutely. No problem.

Easy. If you, if you have a personality, you have to have a personality.

Suzie: You have to want. You have to want it like anything.

Mel: It's like anything. You gotta kind of sell yourself a bit. Right. You gotta get out there and. That sounded awful. I'm talking about prostitution. I'm saying, like, you've got to be able to give off, like we did in a previous episode, that you're approachable.

You've got to give that off. And how, even if you are, let's say you have two women. I'm really going off track here. But you have two women. One is 40 and incredibly beautiful but not approachable.

The other one is attractive but mega approachable. Warm bubbly for sure. The mega approachable, warm bubbly.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: Kind of attractive woman is totally going to get dates.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: The other woman isn't, because.

Suzie: Are you talking about if they're the same age?

Mel: Yeah, yeah.

Men can sense it. I'm just saying that it does. There is a change and it is. It is essentially biology. And we try and ignore this.

When a man is 30, 40, 50, he can have babies until he dies.

He can marry a 90 year old, can marry a 19 year old, a 20 year old, whatever, and have children as a woman, you can't. So that does mean that something realistically shifts.

And what Jeff was talking about is this idea that when young women. And we're seeing it a lot now because I think there's a change in women in their 20s sexually, very liberated,

quite demanding,

and they think they'll have this power and be the gatekeepers of sex forever. Right. And it will change because the men don't have the power. When you're young, it's like when you're in high school, university,

you know, women have all the power. If you're a cool, attractive girl,

you've got all the power.

The boys are like desperate. Right, right.

And that goes on for a bit and then it starts to shift.

Suzie: Unless you're a 666 man.

Mel: Well, that's what Jeff said. And he's. He is. He's right. That if you're a 666. So which I, I told you, I, I said this to somebody the other day who was in their 80s, who almost.

Who thought was the funniest thing they'd heard. Almost fell off their chair. It's a bit worried they were going to die. It's like six foot tall, six foot inch ****, six foot salary.

Suzie: You know what's funny as I was just doing some research.

Mel: Did I say six foot inch ****?

Suzie: Six foot inch ****. I love a good six footage.

Mel: ****, six foot foot, six feet tall, six inch ***** presumably. Well erect. I don't know, I haven't actually questioned that. Six, six figure salary.

Suzie: Yeah. But you know what, I was doing research on the 666 because for this episode and you know it's actually six pack abs, not six inch ****.

Mel: Oh, have I added six inch ****. But I think that's much more appropriate.

Suzie: No, no.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: I just thought that's so funny. I was like who cares about abs in this day and age? The dad bonds in. I care about a 6 inch ****.

Mel: Who cares about the abs? And I always think about the abs. Now I am going off track then. If you're going out with this guy then you've really got to keep up your diet.

European. It's really. That's not good. No, we don't go for the sitting six inch stick.

Suzie: The six foot inch ****. I love a good six footer. So I've, I've made up this whole.

Mel: Thing but it's great. I'm just going to go with what I've made up. No, I love that I saw it somewhere.

Suzie: No, I'm sure it, I'm sure other women believe that as well.

Mel: But I think that is essentially what women want and men are like holy ****. Like all men are not like this and it's not very fair. So. I understand that point of view but.

And I'm getting really off track here, so.

Suzie: No, that's okay. Let me just. I, because, because I did this, I was looking this up because I was like, I want to know literally how many guys there are because all of the women, all of the younger women,

we're not talking about like 30 and ups. We're, you know, we're talking about like 20 to 30 year old women who are hot, who want the 666.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: Some of them aren't even that hot. But let's just be honest about that. Brutally honest about that. Okay. So apparently according to Unilad, the site.

Mel: Great source.

Suzie: Yeah, I love that Source. Only about 0.425% of men are a part of the 666.

Mel: And it's absurd.

Suzie: It's like how can you want something that is so unrealistic?

Mel: No idea. Because we've been so bullshit. I mean, I think, you know, we've been sold. It's just something that's unattainable. It's ridiculous.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: And also, who do you think you are that you're going to get this?

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: And I saw this TikTok the other day and it was this girl who was going out with a 666 and. And everyone was like, oh, you engaged? Kind of thing. And then she's like, well, no, I met a new guy and I'm married or marrying this guy.

And she panned to this guy who's very, very good looking but he's like a contractor, he builds houses. And she pans to this video of him literally building her a ******* house.

Suzie: Right?

Mel: And I'm like, yeah, go for that guy. Yeah, he's literally building you a ******* house.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: Who wants the ****** banker? Yeah, go for the guy who can build you the ******* house.

Suzie: I love that ****** banker.

Mel: If a man can build you a house.

Suzie: I know, that's hot as ****. Wow.

Mel: Wow. And actually on this point, anybody out there who is able to build a house and it is normally men. Not to be sexist because somebody will probably say I'm sexist, but it isn't sexist, it's generally men.

I think that's sort of a pseudo fact.

Oh my God. You need to put this on your dating profile.

Suzie: Yeah. If you can build a house, every.

Mel: Woman, if you are moderately attractive and a nice guy and you can build somebody, a girl, a house, you need to put it on there.

Suzie: So hot. When men are handy.

But you know why men probably don't want to put on their dating app? Because women will take advantage of that. They'll be like, oh, I have to hang this picture.

It's been hanging in my.

Mel: If it's easy for you, I get.

Suzie: Her to iron and she might sleep.

Mel: Something for you or make you a sandwich or something. Do something.

Suzie: Yeah, she'll make it work. It's a sandwich thing for sure. That's gonna sell it.

Mel: No, but I mean outside of the sexual arena. But if he can do stuff, if he can do stuff handy around the house, great. Just do it for her.

Suzie: No. Being a single woman's really hard right now because I want to do so many things around my place and I don't own a screwdriver,

I don't own a hammer.

Mel: I always see we really are going off track. But I always see these tiktoks of these women who can make like these amazing DIY that they'll go to IKEA and buy like four cabinets and then it turns out to be this and they've PA painted it.

And I'd love to be that woman, but there's no way.

Suzie: There's no hell I could ever do.

Mel: I don't even know how to use a drill.

Suzie: I want to know how to use a drill.

Mel: I mean, every IKEA cabinet I have either asked my husband or my oldest daughter's very good at putting them.

Suzie: Oh, that's good.

Mel: I've never.

Suzie: I don't want to have to do that anyways, though. But see, that's my thing. That's my 666 rule. Okay.

Mel: Okay.

Suzie: You have six inch **** ride. Okay.

Mel: Six inch drill.

Suzie: Six inch drill. Okay. You. Nice, nice hammer on you. Right?

And yeah, six.

Six figure salary would be nice. That's. Those are my things. Doesn't matter what the height. For me, it's the ****.

Mel: Yes.

Suzie: The drill and the salary.

Mel: You basically need a man who owns like a property development company or something who can build everything.

Suzie: I mean, a seven. Seven figure salary would be better for me, actually, because I have a shopping addiction.

Mel: Fair enough. I get it. But now we've completely gone off track and we can't really even remember.

Suzie: No, no. So. So the women who are in charge of gatekeeping.

Mel: Sex. Gatekeeper sex. So I know you look at me and you think I'm mad. That this is not a thing.

Suzie: I think you're mad. You know why I think you're mad? Because you could in your form at this point, at ripe age of 52.

Mel: 52, hot.

Suzie: You could, if you wanted to. If you got divorced from Max, you could still get a super hot rich older man.

Mel: Well, he'd be 85. He wouldn't.

Suzie: He'd be like. You could probably get like a 60 something for sure because you're a catch.

Mel: Oh, that's very nice of you to say.

Suzie: Very. The big catch.

Mel: It's very nice of you to say. I think you're being a little optimistic, but that's fine. I appreciate it.

Suzie: I'm just telling you.

Mel: It's very nice.

Suzie: I think it's all about your attitude. I think the attitude of women, we lose it after a. A certain bit.

Mel: I do think you're right. I do think you're right that women get very jaded and they do, you know,

tend to socialize after at a certain point, like not going to places where they're going to meet men. Like clubs or whatever.

Suzie: No, but even the supermarket.

Mel: Yeah. And then they have their, their guard up and their guards up, and then I get away from me free kind of thing. Right. And. And then when they're socializing and women generally socialize a lot more than.

Not more than men, they're just more. They're very social beings. But you're right, women socialize with their friends and they'll go for dinner or they'll have something at their home or whatever, like, who are you meeting?

And I agree with you that you're absolutely right.

It is an attitude thing. But it's just the older you get,

the harder it is for women and almost the easier it is for men. Not all men,

but.

Suzie: Well, this is what I'm saying because I've actually gone on quite a few dates with some older, not like that old, obviously like 40s, 50s, and then.

Mel: Said it was hard.

Suzie: They're just.

Mel: But who are they looking for if.

Suzie: They don't have a wife, if they are not divorced,

they don't know what to do with their clothes, they don't know what to do with their appearance. More they make money because they're at that age where they like, are established.

But these guys, if they don't have like a woman in their life,

they don't know what the **** they're doing. And like, as a, as a 30 year old, I look at a guy who like can't dress himself properly or like doesn't own moisturizer and I'm like,

I'm like, do I really have to ******* tell you what to do? Like, do you know what I mean?

Mel: It's just like, I do, but he's in his 50s.

Excuse me, or in his 40s, and he is looking at you who's just 30. There's no way, because I'm open to it though.

Suzie: But if there was a woman who was hot and like 45 and he, let's say he was 50,

you don't think he's gonna go for the hot 45 year old if she'd never been married?

Mel: Oh, no. I actually think that men who. If men are in their 50s and have children,

it's much better if they date. If they're gonna go for a 45 year old to go for a woman who has children, really? That's much easier. If he has children and she has children,

it's much easier. Then it's not even on the table.

I mean, I've seen,

um, you know, many friends of mine marry who are now my age. Whose husbands are, you know, in their 80s or 70s or whatever,

those men have had to have more children, right? They didn't want to have more children.

But this is,

you know, you have to. If you want the woman, you have to give her what she wants, if that's a child. Otherwise you lose the woman. It's really not complicated.

Suzie: Hello, boys.

Mel: And also, you know, and I say this to women and to men,

um, is that men. If there's something. Let's say you're. You don't like, whether that's.

Your girlfriend likes handbags or whatever it is. And you just think it's totally stupid.

It doesn't matter what. It's not for you. She wants it. Right. And it's like if you like cars or something, or motorbikes or whatever it is, guys like sports, even sports, and you spend lots of money on that.

And your girlfriend thinks that's totally stupid. It's not about you. Yeah, it's important to that person. Yeah, they can afford it. Obviously, that's a separate issue. But if they can afford it and it's important to them and they enjoy it and they get pleasure out of it,

you don't need to understand it.

You just need to understand that they need it or like it. That's it. End of story. And I can say this from my perspective.

My husband loves sports. As you know,

to me, it means nothing. I mean, he spends lots of money on tickets and seats and blah, blah, blah. That gives him great pleasure. And he enjoys it fine. I don't talk about.

I don't understand it personally, on my. In my little female brain, in my little Melanie brain. But I understand that it gives him great pleasure. It's the thing that he likes.

It's his thing thing.

So that's it, End of story. Yeah, you know me,

I like things like handbags and jewelry.

He, of course, doesn't understand why on earth would you spend this much money, but he doesn't.

He understands that I like it. He doesn't need it for him or to. He doesn't need to understand it, but he knows that I need it or want it or whatever.

Within the bounds of reality. Yeah.

Suzie: Well, yes.

Mel: Buying the crown jewels, he's not.

Suzie: He's not buying you things that you are like,

I don't know, demanding. It's more just like he buys them for you because he knows you love them and he loves you and he wants you to be happy. It's not ******* rocket science 100%.

Mel: And my just, you know, going on about my Husband is that he. I don't actually ask for things, but I guess that's the relationship. Obviously we both work, but he buys me stuff and surprises me.

It's not like I say, you have to go and buy me. Hey, blah, blah, blah, blah.

He goes and buys it. Right. Um, which is very,

very, very nice. Very, very thoughtful because I haven't asked for it. He knows what I like and he's gone to buy it and buys it for me.

And I know that's very materialistic and it doesn't have to be that. But.

Suzie: No, of course not. But everyone likes different things. Like if you appreciate food, someone makes you a great meal.

You know, like that's something you don't have to spend a lot of money.

Mel: On something 100% don't you just have to do something thoughtful that is important or, or to that other person or that they enjoy.

You don't have to enjoy it. And I think that's the mistake. A lot of people.

Suzie: Well, I think as people get older, they forget they think about themselves way more.

Mel: Oh yeah.

Suzie: And that's, it's a. Which is a weird thing. You think they think about themselves when they're younger. But I feel it's. In my experience it's men who are older who have not been in.

You get stuff or something like that. Like, it's like they're not used to taking care of someone else in a certain kind of way.

Mel: Oh yeah.

Suzie: And then they get into this point of just like, you know, like.

Mel: Oh yeah. It's like anything.

Suzie: Why would I do this for you?

Mel: Yes.

Suzie: It's like, do you want to have sex?

Mel: Yeah. Yeah. Well, exactly.

Suzie: Do you want it? Like, do you want anything to do? Like I'm happy to do something for you if you do something for me. Like, it's like a, it's a give and take.

Doesn't have to be materialistic.

Mel: Absolutely. And I think that too many men think that all women are out there like gold digging. It's, it's really, it's just not true. Yeah, of course women like stuff and we've had so many comments about women and their makeup and their blah, blah, blah and their,

you know, I do it for.

Suzie: We do it mostly. We do a lot of it for you guys. I'm so sick of pretending like we're not actually wearing makeup and push up bras for men. Of course we're wearing it for men.

Of course I'm wearing it to attract for me.

Mel: I would love to know the push up bra that literally Changes you that much? I mean, I don't.

Suzie: Well, exactly.

Mel: Well, maybe I need them to go up. Just don't need.

Suzie: Well, the Victoria's Secret ones that make you look like you're like. I know, three sizes bigger than you actually are, which is like, who's wearing that? The girls in their, like young twenties were a little self conscious.

Mel: Exactly. I mean, that we. Yeah, exactly. But I mean, I just do think that we go back to the original thing, which is.

Suzie: Yeah, sorry, what were we talking about?

Mel: The gatekeepers of sex. And obviously we see a lot of comments of men saying, yeah, the women are the gatekeepers of sex. Women. And obviously,

you know,

it's this dance between men and women that men basically spend their time trying to persuade women to have sex with them.

And I do understand that, but it does definitely shift at a certain age.

It just does.

And if it didn't, then why would older men be looking at younger women? And if I look at a lot of my friends and it's a lot to do with you get older,

your appearance changes. Obviously,

generally you're probably a little bit. Not necessarily always, but a little bit heavier than you were.

Not fat, but heavier or whatever it is, you've got wrinkles, whatever the hell it is. And you know, I understand that some people are not attracted to. They're attracted to youth.

They don't like that.

Suzie: Who doesn't like a hot young person? Men or women?

Mel: See, you say that. And I can think of a couple of people that I know who've got, Who've had second marriages.

And I have to really commend these men because they're. And they're really nice men and they're like in their 50s and they've got remarried and they've married women around their age.

Right.

Suzie: Which is super abnormal.

Mel: Sort of very abnormal. Like, I can think of a couple and they're really, they're great men. They're really secure in who they are and they have fantastic second marriages and they've met and the women are very attractive, but they're not 20.

And they have children,

but they don't want a young woman. They wanted a woman that they could share their life with who also understood,

you know, you're 50, if you've got children,

you get it. It's a lot, you know, and if you.

Suzie: Well, the children should always come first.

Mel: Yeah. But if you are with a partner, if you're in your 50s or 40s and you're with somebody who has children,

they get what you're going through.

They get that you have to put the children first kind of thing. But, you know, and I can think of these men who, who have not remarried younger women. They've married women around their age.

They're very secure.

Yes. They're very attractive women. But you know, they're attractive men.

Suzie: I mean, exactly.

Mel: They're like good looking,

you know,

well off guys. But they've not sought out to meet a woman in her 30s or her 20s. They wanted to meet somebody that they had something in common with,

that, you know, the things that they like to do, whatever that is, travel, go out to restaurants, whatever. Not.

Suzie: Well, this is the problem. Right, but that's what young women do.

Mel: Yes.

Suzie: What young women also like to do. These guys who are picking these women that are their age is very abnormal.

Mel: It's very unusual.

Suzie: But I'm not saying it's like, like it's weird because it's like these, the men who are like in their first divorce.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: Like they're in their 40s, 50s.

So like they are usually the ones to date the younger women because the younger women bring out like, oh, I didn't get to do any of these fun things with my wife.

Mel: Yes. Yeah, I think there's. And I understand that.

Suzie: And it's like. But then as we said, then they have to give them children.

Mel: Yes. They have to give them things, they have to give them children. We have to be real. They have to give them stuff. They have to give them a house, they have to give them a life.

Suzie: And men, if you don'. If you don't want to have a child at 50,

like, why? Because why would you have a baby? You know what I'd be like, want to have a child at 50, you know what I mean? Unless, like, you can't help it.

Like, but like, it's just like not,

it's not favorable to do that because.

Mel: If you've had children, it's a lot of ******* work.

Suzie: Well, you know, and then to go.

Mel: Back to have a baby, it's a lot.

Suzie: So. But I'm not saying it's not able to be done,

but. Yeah, no, it's not favorable. But you have to do. If you get an. If you're an older man and you want a young girl, when you.

It's just part of the project.

Mel: Don't date young women then.

Suzie: Exactly. Or date them, they want their cake and eat it too.

Mel: Don't have a relationship. I mean,

that is insanity. I've said this before.

It's like, that is crazy because you're gonna get to that by. Absolutely.

This is something for all the men out there. Yes. That women are pretty, you know, and I, I've. Somebody else told me off the other day for generalizing and I'm like, okay, whatever.

But most women. Not all, but most. Should I caveat it.

Want the same things. It's not,

it's not necessarily that they're not working or whatever, but a lot of women want a masculine man who's like strong and can provide,

can support. Not necessarily, he's a billionaire, but, you know, he's strong. Right. So you can get into a relationship and most want marriage, a house. Not all want children, but I'd say the majority want children eventually.

I think that's a fair statistic. Yeah.

So if you are meeting a young woman, a lot of these older men think, oh, you know, she's going to be different or whatever. And you're like, no, it's going to be the same thing all over again.

She's going to want exactly the same things your first wife wanted. She's just a different person.

Suzie: And she's going to turn out just as boring or whatever because. Because this is what women do. We go through these cycles of fun, fun, fun. Children.

Mel: Mom.

Suzie: Sorry, more,

you know, just like becoming a mom. You don't want to go out. You don't want to do things like you want to just ******* sit. And older men are boring too, though.

Mel: Of course.

Suzie: And they don't want to admit that.

Mel: No, no. It's just ridiculous. The problem actually. Ridiculous.

Suzie: I mean, they just want to sit at home.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: Watch sports.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: Have a nice meal.

Mel: Yeah. That's it. That like go to an.

Suzie: Younger women want to go do some fun stuff.

Mel: Yes, of course. And you should do it. I mean, for Christ's sake, you've got the rest of your life to be boring. When you're young, you should be out,

you know. You know,

it's my parents. Well, my parents told me this and I tell my.

They weren't the greatest parents, but that's another story. But they, they were always like, go socialize, meet people. Because you're only young once. I always say this to my girls, not that they need to be told, but you're only young once.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: Go out and do that stuff. Because also if you do stuff, it's when you make mistakes about things. And that's fin.

Because how else are you going to learn if you don't do stuff when you're young? You're going to get to 50 and go. And then you're have a crisis.

I've never had a crisis because I was, I did a lot of stuff when I was young, you know, I mean I liked partying, I love socializing, I love people.

I don't have any regrets. But now I have no interest.

I can minus nano interest of being in a club or a bar on a Friday or Saturday night.

I, I just none because I've done it and I, I love to go to a nice restaurant, but I don't want to do that. So. Yeah, if you're with a 50 year old man, he doesn't want to do that either.

He's gonna pretend.

Suzie: He's gonna pretend like he does and he does. Exactly.

Mel: And he's gonna go with you.

Suzie: So funny.

Mel: It's like I told you to go and watch the show with Stephen Carell.

Suzie: And oh, I did Tina Fey and so good.

Mel: And it's. That pretty much illustrates it. You know, he leaves his wife and he goes out with this, what is it called?

Suzie: Oh, Four Seasons, if you want to watch it on Netflix. It's really funny and it basically, basically.

Mel: It'S great when you're together, but then you sort of meet the friend, then you're like a fish out of water. In fact, the younger woman's better with his friends than he is with her friends.

Yeah.

Suzie: Because she's always going to be more mature.

Mel: Yeah, exactly. And she, she can sort of kind of deal with different kinds of people. But yeah, of course they're boring. Yeah. And I mean why men don't admit this, I have no idea.

Suzie: Because they want it. They think they're. Because they're still immature. They're older, but they're immature.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: So they have the same maturity level as a 30 year old.

Mel: Yeah, yeah, that's probably true.

Suzie: But they have the same, you know, like body as a 50 year old. So it's like they can only go so far for so long, you know.

Mel: Yeah, that's probably true. Yeah.

Suzie: But that's, but I mean, I think.

Mel: Well, you are saying so either something to, to listen to and you're absolutely right to women is to kind of change your attitude. I mean it's a bit like we say to people, like go out and meet people in real life.

We know it's very, very, very, very difficult.

But like the apps, obviously, I think in this day and age you have to be on the apps, but try and also be present in life and approachable in life if, because if that's what you want, whether you want to have,

you know, sex hookups whatever you want to talk, call it, or you want to have affairs or you have relationships or whatever category you're in,

you have to make yourself available. Otherwise you are never going to meet anybody. Yeah. And I think you're absolutely right. People don't. And then they complain and then they say, well, I never meet anyone.

But if you're not kind of open and available and I know it's uncomfortable and who the hell wants to be like on. I mean it's like being switched on 24 hours.

No.

Suzie: And it is exhausting. I'm on it right now and it's exhausting.

Mel: And I understand. I mean, I'm obviously not on it, but I can't imagine it's very tiring. But you are not going to meet somebody.

Whatever thing it is you want to do, you are not going to meet somebody unless you're on.

Suzie: Yeah, it is that. So that is interesting. So women are, I believe, the gatekeepers of sex forever.

Mel: Okay.

Suzie: But you might be right where women are not the gatekeepers of relationships. And this is what I'm seeing with women too, of my age.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: I'm just trying to think about it because like they are having problems because they always. They also, and we hate saying this, but women get more desperate to have a relationship and because the, the clock is ticking for papas, for little babies, Viciously so women do get a little bit desperate when it comes to relationships.

And you know, the third date comes around and they're like, what are we?

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: And it's like, let's just calm down.

Let's just calm down.

If you haven't had sex yet, this might be a good time. Make sure that he has a 6 inch ***** for the 666.

And you know, just make sure that he is well rounded enough to actually have a relationship. I think so many women get so desperate and they just want to put themselves into any sort of relationship because then they'll feel secure and safe.

Or it's like the worst thing you could possibly do because you're stuck in a relationship with this guy who is actually not meant for you. But you've just been like dying to be in a relationship that you're like, I needed something.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: And now you can't get out of it.

Mel: Yeah, I mean, I would agree with that. I would agree with you.

Suzie: And men will take the advantage of that too.

Mel: Oh my God.

Suzie: Yeah, Men stop taking advantage of women who want to be relationships if you don't want to be in the relationship.

Mel: Well, this is the Thing Just because.

Suzie: The men wanted to get taken care of by a woman, you know?

Mel: No, they want to get their end away. They'll say anything, right? It's like, why bother?

I mean, why bother? I mean, if you're, you know, quite frankly, a fuckboy and you're really good at.

Why do you have to lie?

Just say, this is what I'm doing. Or basically, don't say anything. Why do you have to say I love you and all this sort of bullshit? I mean, I know women want to hear and that's what they know.

I know it's what they want to hear, but it's stupid.

It's like, he doesn't love you very clearly.

Suzie: Oh, yeah, but this is the women. Women need to ******* stop being so delusional about men. **** boys.

Mel: They have. They have to stop being delusional. They have to stop having these crazy asks. Like, you know, like, I mean, we see it all the time like men saying, you know, I'm.

I'm quite good looking and I'm this and that, but I don't have this huge salary and it's very hard to meet women. And I do, I actually empathize with that.

It's like, what is wrong with all these women?

You know, Like.

Like,

why do you want a boring banker anyway? But I mean, the point is, is like,

you're like,

obviously, if you think about the math, it's impossible.

Suzie: Like, I want to say something though, okay? And it's. I don't know if you're gonna like it.

Mel: Okay.

Suzie: Okay. But obviously, marrying for love, how nice. Okay, but love is not forever for a lot of relationships, but money sometimes is.

Mel: Yeah, well, money's forever, depending on what.

Suzie: Agreement you've signed, depending on the trust fund you've. You've married.

Mel: But it won't make you happy. I. I'm the first person to tell you that money is.

Don't be unrealistic. Money does give you options, a certain amount of money.

Suzie: When the love is gone anyways, though, and you're gonna divorce him, then you don't have anything.

Mel: Wow. Well, you can have your own successful thing, of course, but let's save babies.

Suzie: You don't want that.

Mel: Look, it's very. It's very negative though. You can't start out and sort of. It's gonna fail before you've even started.

Suzie: No, of course, but statistically, 55 fish percent of marriages all in divorce.

Mel: Yeah, but we don't actually know. Is that just because people choose really badly?

Suzie: Well, exactly. At least if you have money and you're choosing for money, then you get something out of it.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: At the end of the day.

Mel: But it's not enough money. Oh, money's not. Trust me.

Suzie: I'm hoping to fall in love and have money on my own, obviously. And hopefully with which is the best way. Of course that's the best way.

But you know what? The women who were like, you know what, I'm sick of this ****.

I haven't found any man who's good enough for my love. Love, whatever,

right. And I need to be like,

I need to think about my kids, my future kids and their future.

And what's gonna give me the best future?

Money.

Look, I'm probably not right, guys, but I'm just. I'm just saying what everyone's thinking.

Mel: Okay. Okay, thank you. But we sort of agree, but sort of haven't. Yeah. So I. Yes, we'll leave it at that. Because we'll go down.

Suzie: I think so. Because I do also want to know what,

what our audience thinks and if they have any comments about this. I'm sure they will.

About, you know,

what do you guys think about the 666? Is it unrealistic or should women all be striving for the 666 and you know, is that a possibility for all of the hot women in our lives?

Mel: Ah, you just. Ah. But you said the hot women because.

Suzie: I'm sorry, but the ones who are.

Mel: Non hot women, what are they meant to be doing?

Suzie: They can at least have a 6 inch *****.

Mel: That's true. What if they have. Oh. Or they can have one of the sixes.

Suzie: They can have one of the sixes. Two even.

Mel: There's a good. Go for two.

Suzie: Oh, I'd go for two out of three. Ain't bad.

Mel: What should men aim for in women? There you go. There's a question, Mike. To you, Susie.

So if we're looking for the two of the 666,

what should men be looking for in women? Because it's not fair, is it,

that women are having like, oh no, he has to have this and the other. Well, so what should the woman be?

Suzie: Empathetic, Fertile.

Mel: Okay.

Suzie: If they want babies and ambitious in what way? Ambitious in the way that they have their own life.

Mel: Okay.

Suzie: That you are not their only life.

Mel: Not necessarily career ambitious.

Suzie: Not even career and ambitious. If that's not important to the man.

Mel: Just got their thing.

Suzie: Just. They have their thing, their interests, their friends.

Mel: Yeah. Okay.

Suzie: They're not literally just like clinging to you.

Mel: Yeah. Okay.

Suzie: So empathy, right.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: Is that what I said? Empathy, ambition, and fertility.

Mel: Fertility. Wow. What about the women who aren't fertile then?

Suzie: Well, I'm not saying it's the only thing. I'm just saying if that's what a man wants and that's what she's looking for. If a man doesn't want K.

Hmm. Then I mean, you know,

kindness and good ****.

Mel: Good ****.

Suzie: Good **** are always good.

Mel: Yes, I suppose they are helpful.

Suzie: I'm just saying it's like the 666.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: From a man's. Like, from a woman's perspective, the 666 is completely one. Unrealistic, but also, like,

super shallow, obviously. Shallow. Well, I'm just gonna say materialistic, but that's not really it. But, like, so.

And for a man's perspective,

of course, fertility is ******* shallow and so stupid and unrealistic in some respects. So a lot of women are not wanting kids at this point. But, you know, they should look for also, like, what's like d cup.

The 3ds. This is what they should look.

Let's see. Let's see if we can make one a D cup. Let's just. Let's just see if we can make one.

Mel: Okay.

Suzie: A D cup. Deranged and. And delightful. Wow, that's a good three.

Mel: Do you think all women have to be slightly nuts?

Suzie: Oh, absolutely. To deal with a guy who wants the 3Ds, you gotta be crazy. Okay. All the women are gonna hate me after that.

Mel: Okay, let's see if.

Suzie: Let's see if anyone agrees with me, though.

Mel: Okay?

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Suzie: Bye. Bye. Three, two, one. Sam.