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Episode 49  -  Sexuality Terms

Melany Krangle & Suzie Sheckter

Suzie: Welcome to sharing my truth with Mel and Susie. The uncensored version where we bear it all.

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Suzie: Hello, everyone. Hello, and welcome back to sharing my Truth Pod. You're here with lovely little melon Sue's. We're so happy to be here with you guys today.

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Suzie: We just had a lovely bottle of Prosecco or champagne, if you will. I was going to say Prosecco, but.

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Suzie: I know I wanted to keep ourselves grounded for our audience, but that wouldn't happen. But, yeah, we just celebrated a pretty hefty goal of ours on this podcast and we just want to thank you guys so much for that. You guys, obviously our audience. This is why we do it. We did this to build the community and we're really seeing the reaps of our rewards and it just feels really great. And we just want to thank you guys so much for being a part of this.

Mel: Yeah, definitely. I mean, it's amazing. It's hugely rewarding amazing to have people engaging in the community that we're trying to create.

Suzie: It's amazing. I love it. But yeah. So thank you guys so much for being here. And we're going to get right into this cute little episode. We're talking about some sex terms, sexuality terms, if you will, that Mel and I were like, okay, we went through this list online that we found and a lot of these terms are like, what the **** is yes and why are we putting words onto terms? Do we even need this? Mel.

Mel: No, I mean, that's my point, is that I think as somebody of my age, I think what's really great about millennials or Gen Z's is there is more vocabulary to help people that are perhaps not in all the boxes we put them in, certainly in the past, to have descriptions to say that, no, I feel like this. Or I feel like this. Or I am this. And that's the point of vocabulary. That's the point of language, isn't it? It's to help you when you felt a bit trapped in the description that you had before. Do you know what I mean? That was the point of it. And you think, well, that's really good, that's really healthy, that people can feel liberated by actually, if somebody says or somebody asks them a question, whatever that question is, they can say, well, this is what describes the way I feel, who I am, or whatever. And that, I think, is really good. Yeah, but I think this article, for example, or that we've read and researched, we are taking the **** now. Have we gotten a bit out of control with the term it's not helpful at all because it just gets confusing.

Suzie: And then you're like, I don't want to tear someone's term down. Right. And you don't want to be insensitive because people have come up a long way to be what they feel and be who they are. And no one is saying, you shouldn't do that. I mean, not no one is paying, but we aren't saying we're not you shouldn't do that. We absolutely celebrate that. But some of these terms, I'm like, why are we still talking about that? We get it. We mean you I guess we get it.

Mel: Yeah. I mean, I think you're making what you're actually doing is overcomplicating something that is not complicated. Yeah. Like, you're actually doing the reverse of what you're trying to achieve. Yeah. We're trying to break down barriers with terminology. We're trying to remove prejudice. We're trying to help people who are not in, let's say, the quote unquote, traditional life journeys or whatever you want to call it, sexuality boxes we put people in. And this is just making it absurdly complicated, I think.

Suzie: So maybe people like to be complicated.

Mel: Yeah, maybe that's it.

Suzie: I think you kind of have to like a little bit of spice in your life. You're like, I'm not an ordinary person. I have to be 50 different things. And you should want to be more than one thing.

Mel: Sure.

Suzie: But yeah. Anyways, should we get into it then, love?

Mel: Yeah, go on then.

Suzie: Okay, so I thought this one was kind of funny because I was like, isn't this just something else? Okay, so the term is androsexual.

Mel: Yes. Okay.

Suzie: Androsexual what do you think that is?

Mel: Me?

Suzie: Yeah. What would you if you just heard that term and you're like, what is andro?

Mel: Well, that means male, so I assume that means you're gay.

Suzie: Right.

Mel: Why do we need this word?

Suzie: So the actual definition is a term used to communicate sexual or romantic attraction to men, males, or masculinity. This term intentionally includes attraction to those who identify as men, male or masculine, regardless of biology, anatomy, or sex assigned at birth.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: So it's not just men, though, right? Because it could be lesbians who are maybe more masculine or trans people who are more masculine, who are more attracted to a masculine being, whether they are actually have a ***** or not.

Mel: Yeah, okay, I get it. Okay, that makes sense then. Smooth.

Suzie: We do need those terms after all.

Mel: Yeah, I think okay, that does make a bit more sense now you think? Now I think about it. Because there was a character in this has nothing to do with Androsexual, but it sort of has a relevance. You know that show billionaires. Billionaire. And there was a character Billions? That's it. Yes. There was a character in that that was nonbinary.

Suzie: The bald one.

Mel: I never actually watched. I can't remember their name.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: And that character was nonbinary. So used they them pronouns, but ended up sort of halfway through the show having a sexual relationship with a mat, a cisgender male. Yeah, but as them being a female. Right, I e. Because they have a ******. They had a ****** and they had a ***** and everyone he had a *****. Everyone was completely like, what?

Suzie: Wait, you mean like the audience is like you're watching this and you're like.

Mel: They couldn't get their head around the non binary character actually wanting to have sex effectively as a woman because they had a ******. Right. Because they're androsexual well, maybe not because that's a woman. Anyway, I don't know. But the point is that was needed terminology that is quite for people who are not in that community, they're like, hang on, it's a bit mind blowing. We need a term. We need a term that isn't this term. And I've totally well, it might be.

Suzie: This term because that person if the man who came on to the non binary person was attracted to them because they were more masculine outputting, and then the non binary person wanted that male person because they had a ***** and they were masculine, then maybe they're both androsexual does that make sense?

Mel: They don't, but anyway, there you go.

Suzie: Wow, okay. Androsexual I think that is a good term.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: Because basically if you're a man and this is kind of describing you, you're gay.

Mel: Yes.

Suzie: But if you are just a non binary person or you're more masculine pudding person yes. Then you're just attracted to more masculine energy. Maybe.

Mel: Possibly, yes.

Suzie: And I get it, men are hot.

Mel: Are they?

Suzie: Yeah, they are.

Mel: Not always, but okay.

Suzie: Mel's a lesbian.

Mel: Okay.

Suzie: So the next one we're going to talk about is auto romantic. And this is your favorite term. I know that.

Mel: Yeah. I mean, this is one can you.

Suzie: Tell the people what it means? I just think auto romantic.

Mel: No, I will. Yeah. A romantic orientation that describes a person who's romantically attracted to themselves. That sounds like utter bollocks to me. People who identify as auto romantic often report experiencing the relationship they have with themselves as romantic. No.

Suzie: What do you think about that? Okay. Can I tell you something?

Mel: Are you auto? Yes.

Suzie: Because I turn myself on. What the **** are you talking about? I look in the mirror and I'm like, I'm so ******* hot. And not in a weird American Psycho way, but I'm like, I would **** me. You know what I mean? I'm like, yeah, I'd **** me. And I go out there.

Mel: I know.

Suzie: And I act like it.

Mel: No, I think you're actually there's another term for you somewhere down here.

Suzie: Is it narcissism? Because that too but yeah. I don't know. I find that wow, this is actually a pretty good term for I'm like, wow. I do.

Mel: I'm not like, Are you in love with yourself?

Suzie: I'm in love with myself.

Mel: Really?

Suzie: And I'll take myself on dates, and I'll take myself on shopping dates because that's how much I love myself.

Mel: Yeah, but I like going shopping. I'm not in love with myself, Mel.

Suzie: You should be in love with yourself.

Mel: Wow, okay.

Suzie: Like, I look at my **** and I'm like, those are great ****. Really? I'm like, wow, really great body, girl. Get it?

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: Maybe that's just illusion, though. Like, that's what it could be too.

Mel: No, I think that's confidence. I'm not sure that's I don't think that's weird.

Suzie: You don't think that's auto romantic?

Mel: No. Because you don't want to be in a relationship with yourself or do you?

Suzie: Well, I don't want to be in a sole relationship with myself. Like, I need other people around me to tell me I'm pretty. I can't just be me doing it.

Mel: Just can't be you. Okay, fair enough.

Suzie: So it's narcissism and we can move on. Okay.

Mel: Everyone. Oh, God.

Suzie: Okay, next one that I thought was kind of interesting was a bi romantic, and I thought this was interesting because I am bisexual identifies by being bisexual, but a person who is bi romantic, they experience romantic attraction, but not sexual attraction to people of more than one gender.

Mel: Right. Does that mean they have sexual attraction to one gender but romantic to both?

Suzie: I'm assuming that's what that means.

Mel: They don't have sexual attraction.

Suzie: No, I don't think it doesn't have any sexual attraction to anyone. I think they don't want to **** girls, but they find them, they want to take them out. I don't know, like, if it's a girl, they don't want to **** the girls, but they want to take them out for a date. I don't know. What's the point of a date? What do you think?

Mel: I think this is that women can find other women attractive yes. And kind of have girl crush. Right.

Suzie: Girl. But you crush it.

Mel: Don't want to have sex with them.

Suzie: And a bromance. What is that? Is this by romantic?

Mel: Yeah, exactly.

Suzie: Very bi.

Mel: Yeah, but you find them physically attractive, but you don't actually find them you don't want to have sex with them. You just can see they're very attractive. I think that's what that is, that.

Suzie: Most people then like, I find most people attractive.

Mel: We know.

Suzie: Okay, so yes. So romantic, not sexual. You don't want to **** them. But.

Mel: The reason this is confusing to me yeah. Is I don't think there's any romance here at all. A girl crush or is the opposite of boy crush or what do you call it?

Suzie: It's a romance.

Mel: I did hear a term the other day, and I can't remember. Anyway, it was something like boy crush, but it was something else. I can't remember the term.

Suzie: Sounds like really gay.

Mel: Yeah, it was the same as, like, you're straight, but you find that person physically is very attractive.

Suzie: I think that's normal.

Mel: Of course it's normal.

Suzie: Someone who is attractive or not attractive yeah.

Mel: I mean, you look at particularly, obviously celebrities or whatever. Yeah. And you look at them and say that person is beautiful or not. Yeah. Like, I'm trying to think of a female actress I think is really attractive. I'm struggling right now, but I will think of somebody.

Suzie: Jennifer Lawrence. Do you think she's hot?

Mel: I think she's quite attractive.

Suzie: I think she's super hot.

Mel: I don't personally think she's super hot. I think Angelina Jolie is very beautiful. Yeah. But she's a bit cold and icy.

Suzie: That's the thing. Here's the thing. I am oh, I know somebody.

Mel: Penelope Cruz. She's really a okay. Yeah.

Suzie: So here's the Mary **** kill. K mary **** kill. I would marry Penelope Cruz.

Mel: Right.

Suzie: No. I would marry Scratch. I would marry Jennifer Lawrence. **** Penelope Cruz. Kill Angela Angeli.

Mel: Wow.

Suzie: What would you do?

Mel: I don't like to think about the kill.

Suzie: Oh, my God. Just answer the question, Mel. I've never heard you say **** a girl anyway, so this would be very interesting for me.

Mel: Don't like this question at all.

Suzie: That's a powerful gun to your head. Gun to your head. Mel, answer the question. People are going to start thinking I'm bullying you.

Mel: Okay, I'm going to marry no, I don't want to marry Angelina Jolie.

Suzie: She's psycho.

Mel: She's a bit weird. Bit weird. Yeah. She's probably going to come to her after us now. Oh, my God. I would marry Penelope Cruz. Yes.

Suzie: And then you'd ****.

Mel: I think I'd do the same. Jennifer. What's? It Jennifer.

Suzie: No. Because I ****** Penelope Cruz. But you said you'd marry her.

Mel: Yes. And then what's her name?

Suzie: Jennifer Lawrence. That's it.

Mel: And then I'm not going to say the word. The other one is Angelina Jolie. Okay. Yeah. Although she is very attractive.

Suzie: But that's the thing. I would definitely eat out Jennifer Lawrence.

Mel: Eat out.

Suzie: I would not **** Angelina Jolie. She just seems like she'd be too bony in bed.

Mel: She'd definitely be bony.

Suzie: You know what I mean?

Mel: I think we're dissecting this way too much. Yeah.

Suzie: We need to move on. Honestly. That's just my thoughts about it.

Mel: Okay.

Suzie: After biep demi sexual mel, I want you to tell our audience what that is.

Mel: Yes. So demisexual. Yeah. Going to read this like a school teacher.

Suzie: Do.

Mel: Got my glasses on. On the sexual spectrum, this sexual orientation describes people who experience sexual attraction only under specific circumstances, such as after building a romantic or emotional relationship with a person.

Suzie: I feel like you're a demisexual. Like you have to have a romantic kind of a relationship before you want to sleep with them. It's pretty much what this is. Right. Except take out the asexual part.

Mel: You know what I mean?

Suzie: Take out the asexual part.

Mel: Yes. I wouldn't say exclusively. That would describe me in my past. She's laughing. She's ******* laughing at me.

Suzie: Okay.

Mel: But I do get that, actually. I know plenty of people in this box that okay, so here's a good one for you. I had this conversation, actually, a couple of summers ago with some women I know about whether they'd had one night stands. Yeah. And they were women sort of around my age, maybe a bit younger, and I was shocked at how many hadn't really yeah.

Suzie: Lying.

Mel: No, I don't think they were. Wow. I don't think were and they really needed to have more than just kind of in the bar and up against the wall type of thing. And I guess it takes all sorts. I mean, it could be because you've never really been of course, in a situation where that's happened. That's possible, right?

Suzie: No, it is possible. Sure. You don't put yourself out there. Yeah, absolutely sure.

Mel: Or you've never met you don't go to the right bars. I mean, that would be key.

Suzie: You're going to libraries only.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: Libraries can be very sexy.

Mel: Yeah, no, they can't. I mean, I've never met anybody in a library who was well, maybe I've there's been a few moods.

Suzie: Mel has actually had sex at a library. She's just not telling you.

Mel: No, I haven't.

Suzie: That's funny, though. I mean yeah, I find that very interesting because I have had my best some of my best sexual experiences have been in stands. In libraries. In libraries.

Mel: That's interesting. Why do you think that is?

Suzie: Because you can kind of do whatever the **** you want and you never have to see the person again. So you can experiment, and you don't have to feel this kind of, like, pressure of hurting their feelings or them hurting your like, you can just kind of be more free. I feel like sometimes when you're in a relationship and you're having sex with that person and you know what they like, and it just becomes repetitive. You're also afraid to hurt their feelings. And, like, I don't like that.

Mel: I think this happens to a lot.

Suzie: Of women where they're like, I actually don't like missionary that much. Maybe we can try something else. They don't want to say that because they don't want to hurt their because men can be very just like yeah.

Mel: No, I mean, that doesn't make a lot of sense for me. But I think that you have to be very confident, which you are sexually, to be able to achieve that in a one night stand, because I think a lot of people like the idea of meeting somebody, but they're probably intoxicated and it doesn't go very well, and blah, blah, blah. And then the problem is they're giving off this vava voom. They want to do all this stuff, and they've not kind of met the right person, and it doesn't click and all that sort of stuff, and it could go terribly wrong.

Suzie: I don't want it. Just have fun.

Mel: I think that's the thing.

Suzie: It's like people put way too much pressure on it. People are like, oh, my God, what if he doesn't like me? What if my ****** looks weird? It's like, just go for it.

Mel: Just ******* go for it if you.

Suzie: Want to do it. Obviously some people just really don't want to have a one night stand. And I'm like, okay.

Mel: No, I think that's actually quite common.

Suzie: That is your life.

Mel: It is.

Suzie: It's ****** up.

Mel: Well, I think whichever way you want to go is up to you. Really?

Suzie: Sure.

Mel: Anyway, yeah.

Suzie: Okay, Mel, I want you to say this next one as well, because I think this also kind of relates to you.

Mel: Oh, yeah. Okay. It's a sapiosexual. Yes. Supple. Why does it relate to me? I don't think it's anything got anything.

Suzie: To do I think it absolutely has everything to do with you, darling.

Mel: Really? Why?

Suzie: Because do you want me to say the definition and then you're going to tell me if it relates to you?

Mel: Okay, go on then.

Suzie: Okay. A word used to describe those who experience attraction based on intelligence rather than sex or gender. Obviously, I know you're not attracted to women, but I know you're attracted to smart people.

Mel: Oh, really? Okay. Instead of stupid people. I know. I don't like stupid people.

Suzie: I know that.

Mel: Yeah. Look, I think you can definitely be attracted to somebody's intellect. I think I definitely think that if they're interesting person yeah, I think that can happen.

Suzie: But you'd have to be attracted to their face still.

Mel: I don't think that's always the case. I mean, unless you're absolutely hideous, which.

Suzie: Has happened not to you, but, like.

Mel: To other people, obviously all the time. Yeah.

Suzie: Where people we were just talking about this before. People are the student falls in love with their really horrible, hideous professor because they're obviously very smart.

Mel: But I think it's actually in those cases, it's not necessarily that they're falling for that person's intellect. It's sort of the idea of it. It's like a bigger thing. Right. I think it's sort of bit bigger than just the person and their intellect. It can be like the whole idea of how fascinating and blah, blah, blah this person is, I suppose.

Suzie: I guess that's true. But in that way, you're kind of putting this person on a pedestal.

Mel: Yes. I mean, the only thing I can say to you is I've known a lot of people in my life, and I'm not talking about in a sexual or romantic context, just people who let's say they're physically really attractive, but then you get to know their personality and they become suddenly hideous.

Suzie: Stop talking about Mel.

Mel: But do you know people like that who are absolutely incredibly like, if they didn't open they didn't open their mouth and you didn't know them, you'd be like, oh my God, that person could be on the COVID of Bo, kind of thing. And then you talk to them, you're like they almost instantly lose their attraction or their physical. Like, you don't see it anymore, and I've known several women in my life where that's happened, like, women, like, friends or women that I've known where they're really beautiful, and then you know them, and you're like, wow, yeah, I've known.

Suzie: Men, though, like that too, for sure. This guy's so ******* hot. And then you have one conversation with him, and you're like, get me out of here.

Mel: Yeah, sometimes it can be, like, the voice. Like, you can see this really attractive man, and they speak, and they've got this terrible voice, and you're just like.

Suzie: Wow, I got to go.

Mel: We've got to go. I got to make you just lost it.

Suzie: Oh, my God. So sad.

Mel: It is, isn't it?

Suzie: Okay, yes.

Mel: Let's move on. Yes, I'm ready.

Suzie: Sex averse or hear something sex repulsed.

Mel: Okay, yes.

Suzie: Kind of like similar terms. Mel, do you have it there?

Mel: Do you want to are we talking about sex averse?

Suzie: Try sex averse, and then I'll say sex repulsed, and then we can talk about them.

Mel: So sex averse describes those who are on the asexual spectrum and are averse to or extremely disinterested in sex or sexual behavior. Okay.

Suzie: And then sex repulsed is sex similar to sex averse? Sex repulses on the spectrum of asexuality and describes those who are asexual and repulsed by or extremely disinterested in sex or sexual behavior. So, I mean, I don't really see, like, I guess sex averse is, like you're disinterested in it. You don't care. Sex repulsed is literally like it's disgusting.

Mel: Yeah, it's disgusting to you, which is.

Suzie: So interesting to me.

Mel: To somebody like, you must be, like, mind blowing.

Suzie: I can't get mind blown.

Mel: Can't get your head around that. No, I can't. No, I mean, how does that even happen? I think it can happen for all sorts of reasons. Obviously, there's some very tragic reasons it can happen, but I also just think we are all wired differently, and some people are very in tune with their sexuality or very in tune with the fact they need want whatever sex, and some people really are disconnected from it, and they don't need it. They don't want it. They're just not and I suppose for you, as a person who's very in tune, is that a good way of putting it? I'm quite in tune, yes. So imagine you yes, but the complete opposite. I can't so that's what we're talking about.

Suzie: I don't think I've ever met someone like that.

Mel: That seems really and that's the thing.

Suzie: I would love to meet an asoxual person. I'm sure I've met them before, but I just haven't didn't tell me, obviously. But I would love to just have a conversation with an asexual person and just ask them questions about being like, how did you come to terms with this being your sexuality? How did you figure this out? You know what I mean? Because it's something like, I'm really not interested in men. I'm really not interested in women. I don't want to have sex, actually, at all, but maybe I could be romantic with that's. What's crazy to me, like, being asexual not wanting to have sex, but wanting to have that still romantic connection, she's like, as soon as I hear romantic connection, I want to have sex with you. You know what I mean?

Mel: Right? Yeah, it's an interesting one. I mean, there's a character in the new season of Sex Education who's asexual and kind of struggles with it, not because they're struggling with it, but more they're struggling about what other people are going to think of absolutely. Rather than their own struggle. I think I have known asexual people, and I didn't find, like not that I had sort of lots of conversations about it, but I don't find it that strange. I can understand it. The thing I do find a little hard to comprehend is, like you said, if you feel romantic about somebody, why you wouldn't want to go beyond that.

Suzie: They don't see the point. But they could be repulsed by it.

Mel: Yeah. I mean, the repulsed thing, that is interesting. Yeah. Because you think, well, and I've said this to you before, sex is a very weird thing.

Suzie: It's so weird.

Mel: And it's so weird. We all would have problems going to a public toilet and sort of sitting on the toilet seat and on planes.

Suzie: I was on a plane recently, and.

Mel: Planes are just revolving, and you're just like and you hardly want to even look at it, touch the sink, let alone anything else. But people will go and meet somebody.

Suzie: **** a stranger.

Mel: Yeah. And that *****, you don't know where.

Suzie: It'S oh, you have no idea.

Mel: And you can do a sniff test, but you never know.

Suzie: But what's weird is this weird public toilet is not a sniff test. This weird public toilet is not giving me any pleasure. This ***** that I'm looking at possibly.

Mel: Will give you pleasure sometime.

Suzie: Hopefully a nice looking man or woman is going to give me some kind of pleasure.

Mel: But it is OD, isn't it? Like, you're going to have problems with bodily discharge in a sort of toilet situation? Yes. But you're going to meet somebody and you're not. It's like, weird, isn't it? Yeah, but I'm not having sex with.

Suzie: Everyone on the plane.

Mel: No, but, you know, it's an OD thing. Spencer's, play with us. That's true. That is a good point. Definitely not British Airways. I'm sorry, but I'm not plugging.

Suzie: No. And Mel was first class, too.

Mel: Yeah. Anyway, do you have a whole podcast on that? It is weird. If you actually think about it, it is weird fluids and it's like yeah. So you could actually really build up a thing about no, I don't want to be doing that. I guess maybe.

Suzie: Yeah, I guess we'll see. Well, hopefully have if you are an asexual person, you're listening right now? You want to chat with us, please do. We have questions, and we want your answers. We want your honest answers. We love to hear that.

Mel: Yeah. And I think it'd be really helpful so that everyone can really sort of be a lot less judgmental.

Suzie: Absolutely. I don't want to be judgmental. I just want to know more. I just want to learn more.

Mel: Yeah. Because the world is so we revolve. Everything is revolving around, basically sex and money. So we find it so hard when people aren't interested in money and aren't interested in sex.

Suzie: So weird.

Mel: We're like, how is that possible?

Suzie: It's not, because I love both of those things. So what is your problem? Okay, but that brings us to our last term, and I want you to say it.

Mel: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Right. Let's get in.

Suzie: Mel just wants me to do all the work today.

Mel: Can't be asked.

Suzie: Yes, it's scoliosexual.

Mel: Oh, yeah, this one. So this is a sexual orientation that describes people who are sexually attractive to the attracted to those with non cisgender identities, such as people who are non binary queer, no genderqueer or trans. Right, yeah. So maybe that maybe that explains the billions.

Suzie: Yes.

Mel: Right. Yes. So they're saying that these are people who that's who they're not necessarily.

Suzie: Okay, wait, no, sorry. So I think these are people.

Mel: They.

Suzie: May not be straight or whatever, but they are only attracted to and you're right, this could be the billions thing, where it's like non binary queer that's who they're attracted to was the person with the *****. They were attracted to that non binary person.

Mel: Yeah. And he was a cisgender man and.

Suzie: Attracted to a androsexual scoliosexual person.

Mel: Something along those lines. Non binary androsexual scoliosexual person.

Suzie: Too many terms, but yes. Okay, that's interesting. Just someone who's not attracted to straight people. Pretty much, yeah.

Mel: But this is a bit more than not straight people. This is people kind of I guess you think of straight people, gay, lesbian.

Suzie: Like, outside of all of but they say genderqueer.

Mel: Which brings me to, like yeah, that's.

Suzie: A gay or lesbian or a bi curious bisexual kind of a person, plus trans plus non binary. So I think someone who's just not into straight people, I think.

Mel: Yeah, that's what that means. That makes sense. Maybe I'm wrong, but that doesn't make sense to me. That makes sense.

Suzie: Did I pass the test?

Mel: Is tidra male. Did you pass the test? So would that be like, men who are there's a category of men who really like transgender, very sexy transgender women? Yes. I-E-A sexy woman with a *****. Is that scoliosexual?

Suzie: I think it could be.

Mel: So somebody needs to let me know.

Suzie: I think it could be. I feel like that has to be a term on its own.

Mel: Hang on. Yeah. scoliosexual with a K scolio. Yes. I've never heard that term.

Suzie: I've never heard it either, but I feel like the term. For men, and maybe we should look this up. The term for men who straight men.

Mel: They are straight, using quotations, straight gender.

Suzie: Straight cisgender men who are only attracted or who are mostly attracted to transgender women, transgender women with *****. What is that called?

Mel: Transgender.

Suzie: That has to be a term of something.

Mel: I mean, there's a whole **** genre. It's like Ginormous genre **** on it.

Suzie: Men love watching this. Men love watching penises, but also ****.

Mel: It's kind of fascinating.

Suzie: So fascinating.

Mel: And I don't know. I don't know either what it is.

Suzie: I have no idea.

Mel: I actually saw you say, I'm going to tell you, this is my last thing I saw this documentary made by the BBC. Got to love the BBC. Got to love the BBC, which was about this transgender woman who was like super sexy transgender woman, and she was very feminine with ***** and stuff, but had kept her *****. And she basically said, it's the money maker, I can't get rid of my *****. Because she entertained men, let's put it that way, and was in certain kind of movies and stuff. But she's like, if I don't have a *****, they don't want me.

Suzie: Do you think it's like a shock effector?

Mel: Do you think it's like I think I think it could be men who are perhaps on some kind of spectrum of being bisexual or homosexual. Either they're on a spectrum they're not come to terms with, it could be lots of different things, or it could actually just be something a hugely erotic fantasy. Yeah, and I'm not sure I mean, that's the point with these terms. There'll be my last comment about these terms. I do think it can be helpful, particularly if you're somebody who is struggling because you feel you're outside of some norm and people are judging you or whatever, to have some terminology is really meant to help you, not everyone else. Yeah, and I understand that. That makes a lot of sense. But then when we go into this realm of making this really complicated, I'm not sure it's that helpful, because sex and people in general, whatever they're doing, not just having sex, people are complicated. They're not one thing or the other. Even if you think you're straight and you're a cisgender woman or a man, you have all sorts of complications and lines within that. So that's when I think some of this terminology is a bit like, do we need to describe every nano, micro, whatever part of ourself? Because we don't have the answers and do we need them? Yeah, I don't know. Maybe.

Suzie: I don't think we need any answers. I think we just look for these answers. Like, we're always trying to just look for the answer of, like, why are we here? Why are we why is this life?

Mel: Yeah, I mean, I know it's easy for me to say as a cisgender woman who is straight.

Suzie: Is Matt a white, cisgender, blonde, blue eyed, gorgeous little lovely English woman. Thank you, lady.

Mel: Thank you for that.

Suzie: Absolutely.

Mel: I really do appreciate that's. Very easy for me to say and that a lot of people are judged in this world for everything and really everyone should just **** off and leave everyone alone. But there isn't necessarily an explanation for every facet of who you are. No. Is there? Is there?

Suzie: I wish there was.

Mel: I don't think there is. And I think you should just ****.

Suzie: Off and be yourself.

Mel: I think so. Wouldn't that be nice? Maybe there's a term for that.

Suzie: God, I'm going to make it.

Mel: Yeah, I think you should.

Suzie: I think everyone should just be a little more auto romantic.

Mel: Well, clearly that's the goal. We should follow in your footsteps, Susie. Auto romantic. Just see yourself and think, wow, look at those ****. God, I'm amazing.

Suzie: **** yeah.

Mel: I mean, every day would be amazing. Yeah, I looked in the mirror and went, wow, rather than going I mean.

Suzie: It'S not every day I'm, like, amazed with myself, but a lot of days I just have to be like, good job.

Mel: I like that. Yeah. I want to know in 20 years time if you still think that 30 years time ******* better be because I've.

Suzie: Done this much work.

Mel: That's true.

Suzie: When I'm just going to let it go in 20 years, I better be 100 times more confident.

Mel: Do you know what I mean? I agree. My God.

Suzie: Or I let that go.

Mel: MILFy, Susie, MILFy, Susan.

Suzie: I'm going to be like some hot *** 45 year old walking about the street.

Mel: 45? Yeah.

Suzie: I think that's my peak age, actually.

Mel: Is it?

Suzie: Yeah. Watch out.

Mel: I mean, literally, everyone, watch out. I mean, you've got 20 got quite a few 20 years to prepare, but you really might need to get yourselves ready.

Suzie: Can't wait. Yeah, we'll stop the podcast by then.

Mel: I'm going to be like, it's some rocking chair. Anyway.

Suzie: Well, me and grab a mel.

Mel: Okay.

Suzie: Love you guys so much. Yeah, this is easy peasy. Tell us your favorite terms or if maybe you are an autosexual or an auto romantic.

Mel: I keep on ******* scoliosexual.

Suzie: I was going to say scoliosis. If yours also scoliosis, tell us and then tell your chiropractor.

Mel: Okay, love you till next time.

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Suzie: Bye bye.

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Suzie: Yeah.

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