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Speaker A: Welcome to sharing my truth with Mel and Suzie. The uncensored version where we bear it.

Speaker B: All we do 1234.

Speaker A: Welcome, welcome back to Sharing My Truth pod. You're listening in and we're sharing my Truth with Susie and Mel. I'm Susie and that's Mel and we just want to remind you to give this little pod a little cute review. Little five stars. Tell us how much you love it's. Really, really nice to hear, babes.

Speaker B: Hello, Danny. How are you?

Speaker A: So fun. We never get to call like this. You're all the way in London.

Speaker B: I am in the land of the British people.

Speaker A: And are you having some tea and crumpets today?

Speaker B: I have had crumpets, to be fair. And I always have tea, so that's like a redundant question, Susie. But I only eat crumpets, which I love in London. I have them every day. It's like overkill.

Speaker A: That sounds lovely though. I think that's necessary.

Speaker B: I think it is. And it's very hot bread pudding moment.

Speaker A: Oh really?

Speaker B: Like 30 degrees. And the English people are melting. They don't know what to do with themselves because there's no air conditioning.

Speaker A: Oh my God. Isn't that like a regular summer?

Speaker B: We always we always act really surprised. We get a few days of really hot weather, but it's very inconsistent. It's not like Canada, like it's even though it's **** weather in Canada, I believe it's in Toronto is know it comes to the end of May in Canada and you know, basically until October it's going to be nice. Well, in England, you have no idea. It could rain, could be gale force wind, you just don't know. So everyone's a bit shocked when it's very hot and they don't know what to do with themselves.

Speaker A: What is the point of living in a place that doesn't even have a summer, Mel? Tell me.

Speaker B: Well, that's why I don't live here.

Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. Seriously, I completely agree.

Speaker B: Every time summer I go, why the **** am I here? Yeah, so there you go.

Speaker A: Anyway, well, I'm happy you're having a lovely little time. I wish I was there with you.

Speaker B: Thank you, my darling.

Speaker A: Well, Mel, I just want to talk to you today about a sexy little topic. And I use this myself sometimes when I'm feeling naughty and I'm wondering if you do too. We're talking about audio erotica.

Speaker B: I'm not a big fan, to be honest. Not of audio? No. I just find it make you feel weird bit. No, I don't worry about stuff like that. No. I don't know, I find it a bit boring. I think the problem I have as a person is I'm very steeped in reality, right? I'm somebody who is a realist. So when it comes and that makes me sound very boring, to be honest with you. I find it's even like with fantasy, like movies. Like if you're watching something about witches and wizards or space or stuff, I'm just like I can't be ****** with that. It's just stupid. Very good. With kind of going into another realm that I'm not in. Does that make sense?

Speaker A: It is, but I know you're an avid book reader and things like that and it's kind of the same. Do you read erotica?

Speaker B: No, you don't? To be fair. I don't know if it's changed, but in the old days, erotica that you would read was very much like and his pulsating thigh was over mine and all that sort of stuff. And you're a bit like, oh, please. And my nipples, blah, blah, blah, there he was in all his manhood and I can't stop myself from laughing. That would just make me laugh. So I don't know, to be fair, if it's better and there used to be these I think maybe a lot of it was and it was a lot more romantic. I don't know how romantic it is now. So it's all about this dashing man coming in from the rain and you're a maiden who needs to be saved. You see. I seem to know a lot about it, don't I?

Speaker A: Now that I'm saying, well, I think know the audio erotica is actually quite nice. Like, I don't listen to it regularly because I'm a very visual person, I need visuals. But it's a nice thing to kind of get yourself in the mood, if you would say. It's kind of just like a nice little cherry on top, a little foreplay thing. And what's kind of nice about it is maybe we're talking about more like are women listening to it alone in this episode? But what's nice about it is that maybe you can just listen to it as well with your partner to get you both in the mood.

Speaker B: Yeah, 100%. It's a massive thing. It's an industry that's just booming and keeps growing audio rotica. And from a woman's perspective. And we've both read a little bit about this, and I do get it. People still have so much trouble around the word and the concept of ****, however much. Now, there are a lot of women in the industry making movies, making movies that are not about the male gaze. That's from the female gays and all this sort of stuff. And there's a lot of that nowadays and the industry has changed massively. But I think people in general have a big problem with ****, talking about it, admitting to it, any of those things, right? And I think particularly for women, there are lots of problems because certainly **** in the old days or the origin, not the origins, because obviously it goes back, way back, but certainly when I was younger, it was all made for men and it still is. A lot of it largely is made for men and it's a little bit grim, some of it, and it's a bit like that's not what women want, that's what a man wants. And obviously that has changed and there's lots and lots of options now. But I think there's also a perception, which is probably the most important thing amongst a lot of women, that it's still like that. And so they watch female, female girl on girl stuff because they find the men's stuff threatening, kind of a little bit gross, degrading to women, all of those things. And so if you're listening to stuff, I don't think any of those things are attached because it's in your own head. And also you don't feel somehow this is my perception. What I think that you're not kind of betraying women by watching this woman who's doing this job of, for sure, ***********. And I think there's lots of stuff attached to that. And if you listen to audio, it's just a story. I don't know why people can't accept that. Actually, visual **** is also just a story. And in the west, the women who are in *********** are all over the age of 18. There are very strict rules around this. Yeah, of course there's a perception that that's not the case. It is not the case at all. Especially in the US. We're the center of it, probably. But I think audio is just I don't know, it's more like accepted. It's more like, okay, that women can do that, that's not gross kind of thing. Yeah, no, think about that.

Speaker A: That makes sense. I can't get into it where it's like, you're only doing this I applaud women that can only watch, listen to audio **** to get off. That is insane to me. You're literally making these visuals up in your head, right? That's what you do when you're listening to something like listening to this podcast, you're probably making up visuals in your head. There's things that our body and our mind does. So when you're listening to a man moaning on you're kind of picturing his face. You can also picture it as like a past love. You could do all these things, but it's pretty amazing. Maybe I don't have crazy visuals like some of these women do that are only wanting to listen to audio ****. But yeah, I do agree that it's very much like **** is mostly made for men. But I don't know, as like a bi woman, I don't know. Honestly, I somewhat get off to the male gazey stuff. Maybe that's not because I'm bi. Maybe that's just because I'm a freak. But either way, I don't know. I just need a little bit more extra. And the voice actors of today are incredible. And when you're listening to this audio erotica, really, you're like, holy ****, these people are ******* into it. It's amazing.

Speaker B: Yeah. I think there's another thing that you can have a much wider selection of voices because obviously if you're just acting audio erotica and you're not in the audio sense, not in the visual sense, it's not going to destroy your career or whatever, you're not kind of doing it right.

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: So obviously that's another thing. There's just many, many people also just these companies that are recording it. It's much easier to record audio than video. I mean, it's a whole different game, isn't it? Yeah.

Speaker A: You can have people from all over the world doing this 100%.

Speaker B: And I think the other thing I read somewhere that in this month or in this sort of world that we're living in, that we're trying to get much more we are trying very hard to be more open about everyone living the way they want to live. I mean, we obviously have a long way to go, but I think it also means audio. There are no stereotypes because it's in your head, your stereotypes, whereas as opposed to watching something and of course, still a lot of **** is obviously very attractive, particularly women with large ***** and so on. Whereas those stereotypes are not attached to the audio because it's what you like in your head. So you can actually be doing whatever you're doing with whomever in your head. So in a sense, there's an equality to that, I think.

Speaker A: Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. And it's just a funny little thing. I've always wanted to be a little voice actor for ****. I think it's so hilarious that you're just kind of moaning into a mic and it's kind of also the same with thing with I don't know if you know, but ASMR, of course. Yeah. So obviously that was a huge trend that was mostly in maybe like 2020 ish. I feel like it really went off the charts because people just want to be spoken to in a very soft voice and it really creeps me the **** out. It's just like crunch.

Speaker B: Yes. I mean, it's funny actually, because there's an article I've got in front of me now by Vice and it's from 2021 and it says exactly what you've just said. So this is from April 29, 2021. But for those who've long been mesmerized by the therapeutic charm of ASMR, audio **** may be love at first sound. So I think you're right. I think if the whole ASMR thing hadn't happened and there clearly is as weird as it is something sexual about listening to somebody eating. I mean, it's weird.

Speaker A: It's so ******* weird.

Speaker B: All in there, right? And also we're doing a podcast. We are in this era. I think the other thing about audio ****, I really believe this audio erotica ****, whatever you want to call it, I don't know. Is it really **** if it's audio? Is it more erotica?

Speaker A: It's definitely **** if you're talking about sex, like in a sexual manner.

Speaker B: I mean, I guess the word erotica is more accessible, isn't it? Yeah, it's women friendly. Search engines prefer it. But I think the other thing about audio erotica **** is that you can do other things and people don't know what you're doing right. Unless you're obviously standing there with a great big ***** and then obviously they dill. They do. But what I mean is most people listen to podcasts and they've gone for a walk or they're cooking or they're doing something else on the whole right. Or they're driving or they're on the train or whatever. And if you are listening to something, nobody knows what you're listening to. Right. Yeah. And unless you're actually doing whatever to show what you're listening to, they don't know what you're listening to. Whereas if you're watching something that is invasive, people can see what you're doing. So I think a lot of women where there is still a huge amount of shame around the kind of adult industry or women saying it's okay to watch this stuff, or whatever, all the hangouts we still have are is that if you're listening to something, nobody knows what you're listening to. Yeah. And then I personally know people where and oddly, it's their husbands, which is quite unusual, don't like **** and that can be for religious reasons or many other reasons, and they'll go and listen unbeknownst to their husband to audio erotica. Right. Because then nobody knows what they're listening to.

Speaker A: Wow.

Speaker B: So I think there's a real sense of although I clearly do not think that's very healthy, but I do think there's a higher sense of privacy to listening to something that is funny, though.

Speaker A: Like imagine you're listening to this on what? The Tube, as you call it? The subway?

Speaker B: Yes. The tube, darling.

Speaker A: The tube. Like you're saying a chewy a Tube.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: No, imagine you're listening to audio **** on the Tube and it's a little bit exhibitionisty.

Speaker B: No, it is a bit especially if you've got those little whatsits, the beads or whatever the what you'd be doing the whole thing, couldn't you?

Speaker A: Nobody you could literally be wearing like vibrating panties. You could on the Tube you could name to audio erotica.

Speaker B: Yeah. And no one would problematic if your face expressions.

Speaker A: It would give it away a bit.

Speaker B: Yeah, it would have been and I honestly don't this is very personal for me, but I can't see the point of that. I mean, surely you want to be in your own space where you feel good. Why would you so obviously there's a viristic element if you like doing that, but if you're doing that, you're doing that. Whatever. But yeah, I do think there is a huge element of this is very private and I think particularly for women, it's like, for some reason, if you admit that you're listening to audio rotica, that's kind of way less shameful to saying you watch ****, which is bizarre. But I think it must be that. Because if you just think about the interweb is that if you look for stuff or you think about what's now socially acceptable to buy. Well, audio erotica is up there with ****** and vibrators and whatever everyone's doing it not everyone but it's much more whereas **** still has that kind of I mean, I know there's some sites like, what is it? Much more directed to women and it looks pink and all that sort of stuff, but it's just somehow we've said, no, this is fine to do and this isn't fine to do. It's kind of interesting, but I think it's got to do with the images, is the fact that a woman isn't because it goes back to the woman. We don't really care whether a man's in a situation, but if a woman's having to do something with three men, then other women watching that, sometimes they.

Speaker A: Feel, maybe I really no, 100%, it.

Speaker B: Shouldn'T be watching that.

Speaker A: It's literally like audio **** is like **** without any kind of shame attached. Pretty much like you can think of it that way, which is amazing.

Speaker B: It's acceptable and it's a bit more I think in its essence, it's more feminine. It's a bit more female and flowery because you're using your imagination and women are much better communicators. We probably do have better imaginations.

Speaker A: Well, yeah, and the stories that they're actually telling on these when you're listening are more directed to women in general. Obviously, the men are listening as well, but in general, these stories are literally about foreplay and about touching and stuff like this. Yeah, there's actual things that are talking about things that women like to do in the bed and not just like watching a man slamming a woman for like an hour. It's just like a bit of a better situation for everyone, I think.

Speaker B: 100%. I think, as I said, women are better communicators. You think about chatting. Women chat all the time. I mean, I think about how I use the phone or text or whatever. My husband always says, if I didn't have to have a phone, I wouldn't have one. He hates it. Most men don't call their friends and go, oh, let's have a chat. Do they? I mean, it doesn't matter what age they are, they don't do it. Yeah. Women like constant communication, so it makes sense that they're going to listen to something that has more of a story. Men just kind of want to let's just get straight to it. And I think also possibly I have had a look around. I haven't listened to anything in its full length because I just don't have the attention span for it. But it's a lot more kind of nice. It's not like, oh, somebody pretending to be a nurse, or I've come to your house and I'm a plumber and oh my God, like the sort of traditional view that we have of **** that was made for men.

Speaker A: I mean, either way, I'm skipping to the middle. I'm skipping to the middle to hear what's going on in the good stuff.

Speaker B: Exactly.

Speaker A: The build up is like I'm like, oh, my God, this is taking so long. Okay, you're going on a drive. Okay, now you're in the backseat. Okay, great. Let's get the **** on with it. The attention span for me is I don't think there either, but no, I.

Speaker B: Don'T have the attention span for well, to be honest, I don't have the attention span for audio **** or the attention span for a lot of the female ****, which is made by some very famous directors now in that industry. And they're women in the UK, in Europe, particularly in Spain, in the US. And it's all these long stories and you're mean who's going to sit there and watch half an hour of I.

Speaker A: Don'T know, I don't know. Who the **** has time for this?

Speaker B: Well, time how do women know?

Speaker A: Yeah, why do you want to watch 30 minutes of foreplay? I get experiencing that, but watching someone else do that, come on, you skip to the good parts and maybe there's something for everyone in every video. I don't know.

Speaker B: Yeah, I think it does depend on if you're in a relationship or not and all of that, and who's watching what. And it is completely personal, as in generically. Anything to do with sex is obviously very personal, but I don't get it. I can really say to you, I don't think I'm ever going to be somebody who's going to sit down and watch listen to audio ****. I think you can pretty safe that if you see me with a pair of headphones on, I probably am not listening to audio erotica. No, but I think it is amazing because I think the voices the fact that it's a lot more shame free and that you can use your I mean, it's one thing I always say about mainstream **** is I think that most of the men, like the women, are beautiful, but the men are, just to use an English phrase, are just grim and sort of thinking about the sort of long ponytailed. I mean, obviously that has changed. But I still don't think they're not the same as the women.

Speaker A: I mean, we're not usually looking at their faces, though. We're just looking at their no, that's usually how it's going.

Speaker B: No, obviously not. But the creep factor is not good. Whereas if you are listening to something, you can have anybody in your head. Yes, so I do understand that.

Speaker A: And there's also the different accents that you can have very fun.

Speaker B: Yeah. Like these sites, like what's it called? Is it dipsy or dipsia?

Speaker A: Yeah, I think it's that was and.

Speaker B: Then there's another one called Quinn. Those are sort of like the original or not the original audio erotica, but in the sort of I'd say modern in the last sort of five years or whatever. Very well known, founded by women. And you can choose like, English voice, scottish, American, Australian act so ******* awesome.

Speaker A: Because you know how much I love a Scott.

Speaker B: Oh, my God. We do. We know and you've never even been there.

Speaker A: I know. I would die. No, I would die.

Speaker B: It does rain a lot, though. I don't think you'd love that. Well, that's okay.

Speaker A: We get cozy inside.

Speaker B: That's what happens. My dad's from Scotland, so you'd have to like the Highlands and these sort of big, rugged men, which is not all Scots, let me tell you that. Anyway, it's a fantasy for you, so you should create an audio that's right erotica for you in the Susie and the Highlands.

Speaker A: Yes, thank you. Am I inspiring anyone? Let's go, people. Yeah, but what's so funny is I was on pornhub the other day, and I was just, like, browsing as I do. Of course you were. And I had saw that there's obviously audio erotica on pornhub. Like, it's not all about visuals. Yes.

Speaker B: Okay.

Speaker A: So I was like, oh, I was just interested in listening to what was happening. Whatever I was listening to this probably isn't all audio **** on pornhub, but it was a guy for the entire time, and it was just like, this seems weird. I don't know if this is going to be a huge turn on for me. Just like a man just talking to you and talking dirty to you. I'm like I don't like talking dirty that much. To listen to this for, like, 30 minutes, like, just a man, you know what I mean? Yeah, it felt just a little bit weird. So I'm definitely happy that more women are involved in the back end for most of these apps, because it is weird. You can't just ******* I don't know.

Speaker B: I don't know.

Speaker A: He probably had a lot of views. I didn't even look at it. But yeah, it's literally just a man talking dirty. And I just don't think I could listen to more than, like, five minutes of that without being completely grossed out about it.

Speaker B: I don't think I could listen to 20 seconds of that. That's an interesting question, and I don't know the answer is, most audio erotica, is it normally, like, full on, two actors sort of talking? Is it normally just one woman? One man?

Speaker A: I think when I listen to it how it usually is. Is it's a man and a woman? I mean, there's different things for everyone. There's, like, lesbians, obviously, like, gay stuff, like everything you want. But the ones I listen to are, like, man and the woman, let's say, or the lesbian ones. And then there's also a narrator, and the narrator is usually a woman, so she's like and then we went to his bedroom, and then they talk. Does that make sense? So it's like there's a narrator in the story who's the woman usually, and then they're also talking. It's anything you could want it to be, honestly. That's what the kind of beauty is. It's like literally stories.

Speaker B: Yeah, well, that's it. It's storytelling, as opposed to kind of focusing on what we kind of have a bit of an issue with, like the rawness of **** sometimes in the rawness. Yeah, I could see that. I don't really want to see that.

Speaker A: It depends person I know, honestly, I know we don't want to say it is, but 100% it's still giving **** stars trauma in some way. I don't know if you're supposed to be ******* all the ******* time, it's like you're not supposed to be sitting at a desk all the ******* time. Anything if you do it too much, it's probably not a great thing.

Speaker B: Well, yeah, most **** stars will say that they can separate.

Speaker A: But then is that like disassociating? There's a whole other thing with that.

Speaker B: Yeah. And I honestly do believe I could never be a **** star but all.

Speaker A: Power what, mal Win can do that?

Speaker B: What? No, I don't think I'd be a very good **** star as you know, the whole cleanliness thing would that's true. Send me into a loop. But I think the other thing, like I said about audio **** is it's very different. You're not doing it, you're saying sexy stuff, which is right, right, but and we seem to just have such a problem with this idea that women do this and thinking it's a bit like women who work in a strip club, it's like, why do you have such a problem with that? I remember once being in Las Vegas and I was in this one of the very nice hotels and I'm not sure if they do it anymore, this hotel doesn't but in one of the bars they had these women kind of dancing in cages above the bar kind of thing.

Speaker A: Yeah, sure.

Speaker B: And I remember being somebody it was a woman and she's like, don't you think that's awful? Don't you have such a problem with that? I'm like, no, I think all power to that woman who's probably making a couple of night exactly got a body like that and she can do that. She can't do it for very long. It's not going to be something she's going to be doing forever. And if she can handle in her head the way she's being objectified, that's not up to me to make that judgment and I don't get that. I think people can't and that is a whole sort of feminist argument, isn't it? And I think **** it all falls into the same thing, but somehow we've decided audio erotica is fine, that's clean if you like, because there's no actual people doing it.

Speaker A: I mean, you are the queen of cleanliness. So is it clean, Mel? Do we feel clean about it?

Speaker B: Do I feel clean about audio?

Speaker A: Do your ears feel clean?

Speaker B: Yeah, that's the point, isn't it? Well, I don't have any issues with **** or strips. I don't have any issues with anything because I think well, I'm not doing you know, and people you do. You watch whatever you want to watch. But I just think as a society in the west where we're supposed to be so progressive, we still have lots of hang ups about it.

Speaker A: 100%. And it's honestly getting exhausting. Like, just let people do what they.

Speaker B: ******* want to do. Well, no, yeah, exactly. And the hilarious thing about particularly about visual watching *********** is the reason it is a multi bajillion dollar billion industry is because everybody watches it. Yes, literally everybody. And obviously there are different people. Sometimes you do watch it, sometimes you don't. Sometimes it's just like and it depends and it depends on the person and it depends on what you're into and all that sort of stuff. And one other thing about listening to it as opposed to watching it, is that I just think particularly for women, there's a less kind of hassle factor. Because, like I said, you don't have to get it on your I don't know. Whatever you do, go into a bathroom with your phone or have it on the screen and think, ****, is somebody going to come in in two minutes who shouldn't be seeing me watching this? Do you know what I mean?

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: You kind of have to set the scene a bit if you're going to visually watch something, if you're in a household or in a situation where people can come in and they're not your partner. Whereas if you're listening to something, you kind of don't have to do that as much. It's not as worrying, is it?

Speaker A: Yeah, you never know, you could be listening to it, though, and then it could just connect to your Google home.

Speaker B: I know blasts throughout the house and I do know people where that has happened, not to connect. And then all these things happen. Of course they do. These are the technological advances, of course. Or I saw this hilarious thing, of course, being me, it was a TikTok the other day, and it was this man on a train in England and he's listening this music and he's kind of bopping away in his seat. And then after about a minute, he realizes his headphones these guys sitting opposite him are dancing as well. And he's like looking at them like, why are they dancing? Then he realizes he hasn't connected that's so funny. To his phone. He's just like, oh, ****. Yeah. And he puts so it's very easy to do a lot of this stuff. And that is if you are worried about privacy and you're listening to audio rotter because you're like, I don't want people to know that I do this or watch this or listen to this. And then all of a sudden and you're going to be somewhere like at the hairdresser in the supermarket or something. Banal right? And it'll be and he slid his hand down, literally.

Speaker A: And I'm threatening it's just like, oh my God. But you got to take the chance.

Speaker B: You got to take you know, you got to. Do what's right for you. I mean, judging in my little fact search. Susie yeah. There's a lot about particularly about audio **** or Ruth, however you want to term it, and that it's kind of more acceptable to feminists because it's not like I said before, it's not degrading women if that's the way you want to look at it. And I think in this Vice article they talked I think it's like the CEO or the founder of Quinn, which is one of these audio erotica platforms. She said it's better aligned with female desire and fantasy, which is kind of interesting. And she also said that young women are very shrewd and of voracious consumers of content, which is true, yet they are underserved when it comes to erotic content. I'm not sure I totally agree with that. But audio erotica felt like it was made with my desires in mind. So I think that's the thing that you can just dream whatever you want to imagine whatever you want to imagine into life. Yeah.

Speaker A: I mean, it's hard. We're always watching these things and visuals have such an impact on all of us, especially ****. And it is not helping young people as a whole of just like, oh yeah, this is normal, this is how we ****. And obviously I even had a bit of that issue when I was coming into my sexuality, I think. Yeah, audio **** is maybe more even young person friendly, where you might be actually able to learn something more of what people like because they're saying it out loud.

Speaker B: Yeah, well, it sets up less kind of fake realities, particularly amongst young men. And I've seen it with I have two teenage girls and just my friends who have boys and just the site they visit the most is pornhub.

Speaker A: Oh my God.

Speaker B: And they like serious addictions to it. And of course, before they've had any experiences with women in the real world or obviously with girls or whatever in the real world at the appropriate age, I would like to add they already have all these crazy ideas in their head of what people are doing. And of course, they're not doing it because that is in ****, which is entertainment. And when I was younger either, it was in magazines, which women obviously didn't look at, really, because you'd have to go into a store which had what we call the news agents in England and they were always on the top shelf and you're not really going to go in and say, can I have that? And they were all geared towards men anyway. Yeah. And then obviously like stuff on video cassette and stuff like that. And it wasn't geared towards women, it was geared towards men. It was geared towards the gratification of men. So a lot of women weren't terribly interested in it. And it was surrounded and shrouded in all this shame anyway. But yeah, that would be I mean, I'm just looking at another article here, which is from a site called Nowtolove.com, which is an Australian site. And this is a Sex Expert reveals the real reason why women read erotic fiction. So that's another thing. Is reading erotic fiction the same as listening? In the sense that I know that's the same as a book, right? Like a lot of people listen to books today because they're so well, they think they're very busy, I think, and they want to be doing five things at once. So they think that if they actually sit down and read a book, then they can't be doing all the other things. So listening is obviously quicker. I actually prefer to read. I mean, that's an interesting point. I like reading books because I like my mind to think about it. I don't need somebody else's voice, kind of, right? That's very personal. Could be a bit old fashioned. And it says that. So this article says, great sex needs two things. According to the experts, what we all need most for success under the covers is intimacy and a little imagination. So maybe that's why it's true, actually.

Speaker A: What'S so funny is that I don't know if you remember, I used to read Cosmo all the time as the magazine, and I would read it at summer camp with my friends. And it used to have whatever the erotica like a little chapter from an erotic book. Or not like a chapter, but like a little segment or something. And it used to have it at the back of the magazine, and we would all read it and it would be hilarious. But they don't have those anymore in.

Speaker B: Cosmo, do they not?

Speaker A: And I forget what it used to be called. Something like the Hot Read or something of the Month or whatever the **** it was. And it was promoting someone's erotic book. But yeah, they don't have those anymore in the back.

Speaker B: And so I was, like, kind of.

Speaker A: Appalled trying to read it as an adult, being like, what the **** is the good ****?

Speaker B: Yeah, Cosmo was always the sexier magazine, but it could actually be one of the reasons. And I'm just going back to this article now to Love, because it talks about, I guess, in the last would it be 1015 years, like really well known books like 50 Shades of Gray. Yes. Which then became mainstream. And I remember when the first book came out and everyone was like, I have to say I haven't read any of them, so I'm not going to judge.

Speaker A: But you'd you haven't read any of them?

Speaker B: Not the whole way through, no, I.

Speaker A: Only read the first one.

Speaker B: I think I've seen the first movie or part of the first movie. I don't think I horrible. I think I actually got quite bored part of it. I'm pretty sure I watch it all. I think there are three, aren't there?

Speaker A: Yeah, there's ******* three. Or something.

Speaker B: And it all gets a bit boring because you're like, yeah, we get it. He's a bit the funny thing about 50 Shades of Gray is you'd see and I'm thinking specifically, like, in the UK, you'd see somebody on the Tube reading it or like, park or at the hairdresser, and you'd be like, I know where your mind is. And now it's much more like I don't think anybody would say anything if they saw somebody reading 50 Shades of Gray, but I think it did sort of break some kind of barrier. Right. I'm trying to think, actually, it's a woman who wrote 50 Shades of Gray. Where's she from?

Speaker A: I think she's just American.

Speaker B: She do you want to look it up? Are you looking it up, Gray? Sorry, excuse my mumbling. Down the microphone. No, she's British.

Speaker A: Of course she's ******* British.

Speaker B: I did think she was British, actually. Yeah. So, I mean, that just goes to a point that I've proved to you many times. I haven't actually proved to you that sounds absolutely dreadful. Because of the follow up sentence I'm going to say to you, Susie, I haven't proved this at all, is that the Brits are slightly perverted. Yeah.

Speaker A: You're ******* disgusting. Okay, so wait, here's the thing. So 50 Shades of Gray also made 1.33 pretty much billion dollars at the box office.

Speaker B: Yes. It's lunacy.

Speaker A: That is ******* insane for not even that good of movies.

Speaker B: No, I do remember in the first one, he has a sort of sex room stroke dungeon thing, doesn't he?

Speaker A: Yes, he has, like, a red room.

Speaker B: I mean, he's into, like, BDSM. That's the whole thing, isn't it? Exactly.

Speaker A: And women just ******* loved it.

Speaker B: And I'm like, yeah, and he's very.

Speaker A: Better erotica out there than this.

Speaker B: But they loved it. I don't know. He's from Northern Ireland, the guy, but it's like yeah, I think it honestly was a lot to do with it was acceptable to watch. Is this is made in, you know, newsflash, everyone. Most of the **** in the United States is made in California, too. And the **** industry in the United States is much, much bigger than Hollywood. But I think it was just kind of like, we can go and watch this. And this is an acceptable way to talk about the fact that we are into this. And you just think it's funny. I mean, it's funny. It's hilarious. But I think that was a bit of a change things a bit, that book, in terms of reading erotic fiction.

Speaker A: So funny.

Speaker B: Yeah, it is funny. Well, if you haven't seen 50 Shades.

Speaker A: Of Gray, don't see it.

Speaker B: Don't see it. I'm not going to get those hours back.

Speaker A: There's better things to watch. There's better things to watch and listen to than some half ***.

Speaker B: And I think it did open a lot of doors and there's a lot more stuff that's been made, and it's really not that revolutionary. And it was made in Hollywood, so I think a lot of Europeans are like, what's the big deal?

Speaker A: Yes, 100%.

Speaker B: That's so you watch French TV or whatever, it's like, yeah, this is nothing. It's one of the things I always found hilarious about Sex in the City, which is a show basically in the title says sex, but they get up and they've just had sex with this man and they're wearing their bra with full makeup on. Yeah, that was a European show. They'd be like, Why she got a bra? Right? But anyway, I digress.

Speaker A: Anyways, love yeah. I mean, at bottom line, I'm so happy that audio **** exists. It's just so great that women are finally a bit taking. We're able to take a little bit more control over the **** industry as well. And if this is how we can get in there, **** yeah. I love it.

Speaker B: I think that's a great way of putting it. And whether you want to watch or listen, obviously is very individual. Or whether you a little bit listen and a little bit watch, or you go through phases, a little bit of everything. Yeah. Or whatever it is. I think that's exactly it is that it's becoming a little bit more or we're more like finally saying, oh, actually, no, women do have sex, and women do want to see images, but they just don't want to see the kind of images that were made for men, which were a bit grim. Yeah. And yeah, it's great. And I think everyone should be doing what they want to do.

Speaker A: Everyone should just be doing a little bit more **** mel. That's how we're going to end this. Just do a little bit more ****.

Speaker B: Okay. Anyways, I love you so much. I love you, too. And thank you, everyone, for listening and we'll see you next time. I shall be back on the not.

Speaker A: So sunny shores of oh, God, I'm literally so jealous. All I want to do is have teen crumpets with you and listen to ****.

Speaker B: Well, yeah, I guess.

Speaker A: Okay, my love.

Speaker B: All right, until next time.

Speaker A: Until next time, everyone. Thank you so much for listening.

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